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3 minutes ago, snowspotter said:
I'm not saying the got it right. Clearly, that's out by a distance. My point is that, considering that's the only part of their warning which went awry, I think it's fair to cut them some slack.
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1 minute ago, snowspotter said:
Why - because they have messed up massively . They are presumably responsible for the warnings leading to about a 100 cancelled flights from Heathrow for no reason!. I'm sure the holidaymakers are in Nicks court here. I'd be fuming. 60 miles out at 12 hours notice is pathetic and woeful.
They did not mess up massively. As I said, two of the three amber warning areas were absolutely spot on, and the other was only slightly out. Furthermore, the HIRLAM model (which for some reason everyone seems to be praising) was showing 10cms+ around the Thames estuary and across London - look how wrong that turned out.
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1 hour ago, nick sussex said:
I think the UKMO need to admit they messed up.
There was clearly no convergence zone , that implies convection which I think puzzled a few in here yesterday .
Cloud associated with the frontal wave would stop convection. It was clear from the sat pics where the proper convection was and it was nowhere near the se.
Anyway on today still a chance of some snow running west out of the Continent more especially towards Channel facing coastal areas ,the fact that the Met Office haven’t said much is probably a good thing !
Nick, I think you're one of the most informed posters on here, but posts like this wind me up. Why would the UKMO admit they messed up? Amber warning Lincolnshire and Yorkshire - they got that right. Amber for the SW - they're getting that right. The amber for London and SE was slightly out but only by 50 / 60 miles, hardly a huge fail on their part. Also, to state the obvious, a warning is merely a prediction, it doesn't guarantee snow. It's like some 'amateur forecasters' on here take pleasure in seeing the pros get it slightly wrong. Bizarre.
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5 minutes ago, stubbys said:
Also what are people's dream expectations for good snow event? Not for this period, but for me in Ramsgate it would be a foot of Snow, I'd kill for that ☺
A full day of sun and frequent, heavy snow showers. Those ones that give proper whiteout conditions. Rare as a hen's dentures in London sadly.
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1 minute ago, CK1981 said:
Light snow here at the moment. Will the blob to the northeast move southwest??
That's a little aggressive.
Sorry, couldn't resist. How has Berkshire done? Seemed like everything that moved over me in north-west London intensified as it buggered off west!
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2 minutes ago, Lampostwatcher said:
btw the warning stops at 9am thats 8 hours away is there something else brewing that we are missing
In a word...no. Snow gradually clearing our region over the next three or four hours. The focus then becomes south-west, central Southern England (I think).
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2 minutes ago, Speedbird said:
I think you may need to look again . . . precipitation on the mouth of the Thames is fast disappearing
Agreed. I think we're on borrowed time now in London. Can't see too much of note over the next few hours. Still, any snow is welcome snow!
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1 minute ago, Lampostwatcher said:
really chucking it down now and not in the amber zone
mouth of the thames looking great
You seem to live in a Siberian micro-climate, I'm just down the road from you and we have about a cm with light/moderate snow...
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Any chance people could stop using a weather forum to discuss drugs?
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Finally tapering off here after three hours of moderate / heavy snow. What a cold spell this has been. It's had everything - drifting snow in central London (first time I've seen that in my lifetime, and I'm 33), record low temperatures, nationwide snowfall, easterly gales and a good old-fashioned blizzard in the west and south-west.
After five days of falling and settling snow we have a final total of 8cms in north-west London, with drifts of 15cms. I'd rank this above January 2010 and December 2010, purely for its depth of cold and longevity. Not quite as good as the 2009 Thames streamer, which remains the benchmark.
I'm sure some will disagree, but I think the beast of 2018 delivered. And then some.
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Still snowing heavily in north London, an absolutely amazing day here, we've just had constant snow all day. Up to four inches now and eight-inch drifts.
This is pushing Feb 2 2009 now as my favourite snow event!
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3 minutes ago, Daniel* said:
Crazy scenes in the heart of London everywhere with a good covering! I managed to find drifts over 20cm deep, monstrous icicles, this is turning into something I’ll never forget.
You deserve it! I've been following your updates on Twitter and you've done a great job. Nice one.
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Well after I got the right hump yesterday, today has well and truly delivered for most of north London and the southern home counties.
Went for a walk in proper blizzard conditions and a wind that makes your face ache - not experienced cold like that since the mid-90s.
From having thought this cold spell underwhelming on Monday I'm now rating it on par with 2010.
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When was the last time we saw snow this widespread and heavy from Edinburgh down to London? Quite exceptional.
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Well that was an eventful hour. Heaviest snow I've seen since 2010 put down an inch, taking us up to 2 inches in total. All we needed was the wind to swing round and bingo. Would expect maybe another 30 minutes of this before it clears London.
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2 minutes ago, danm said:
To be fair, if you discount the last 4 winters which were generally crap UK wide, London has had its fair share of heavy snowfall. If you look back through the run of winters from 08/09 to 2012/13, we had heavy snowfalls in each of those winters. Feb 2009, Jan 2010, Nov/Dec 2010, Feb 2012, Jan/Feb 2013.
Plus in north London we had a good snowfall back in December - 3/4 inches. Many of the places down in Kent getting heavy snow now missed out on that in December.
I've been reminiscing to myself about late January 2003, about four inches in a couple of hours. From a north-easterly, I believe.
It's a mis-conception that London is snowless, like you say, but it does seem an awfully long time now!
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2 minutes ago, Sno' problem said:
Look at what is happening on the North Kent coast. As soon as the winds swing further then they should start making their way further down the Thames. But even then, a Thames streamer (if it does evolve)) can be VERY localised. It isn't a case of will it snow here, more of "Oh...It's snowing". Those around the Thames and South of it fare a better chance, so don't expect anything outside of the warning area.
Much obliged for the explanation
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4 minutes ago, Sno' problem said:
Yup, hopefully they keep clumping as they move through the Thames Estuary.
Any idea why they seem to be dying as they hit the estuary? Seems to be the opposite to what's needed for a streamer...
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3 minutes ago, Paul Sherman said:
If you want to see some live snow check this out, Kent again
Thanks...and while I'm at it I'll watch a video of someone winning the lottery...:)
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1 minute ago, Uxbridge90 said:
It's very frustrating as it does feel everyone around us is doing well!
Although in reality it's not. It's mainly areas within 20 or so miles of the Kent and Suffolk coast getting hit. It just seems like we're the only ones...
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4 minutes ago, danm said:
Very frustrating. We have a dusting here in Chingford and we’ve had some snow showers over the last couple of days, but we’ve just been in the wrong place. Wind flows not favourable for us.
Still think we might get something later tonight and tomorrow morning though.
Hopefully. Thursday and Friday look interesting anyway. If, somehow, we miss a covering from that I'm moving to Iceland.
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I am reaching peak frustration. Can't see anything exciting for north London tonight, showers seem to die as soon as they reach land. Although someone correct me if I'm missing something.
Frustrating couple of days for the north London massive - even that blizzard that crossed London missed me earlier, and dropped an inch in Ealing, literally 15 minutes' drive away.
Hey ho, it's only the weather!
South East, London and East Anglia regional discussion - 8th February onwards
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I rarely post but wanted to give my thoughts on this cold spell.
Here in Dollis Hill, north-west London, we've had snow falling constantly and in varying intensity for 60 hours. That's pretty rare and a first for me at the age of 36. We've had heavy bursts and some heavy showers today, but mainly it's been light and steady. Overall, ratings out of 10 would be:
Snow falling - 8
Snow settling - 6
Depth of cold - 6
One thing I learnt a long time ago is to tune out the hyperbole in the model thread. That way you avoid disappointment if things don't live up to expectation. This was never going to be a beast from the east; none of the experts predicted so. That said, for *many* right down the east side of the country it's been, and continues to be, a notable wintry spell. Overall I'd rank it just behind the 2018 BFTE. It proves, again, that winter can still deliver.