Sunny76

Yeah I did know that, but thanks again for reminding me. I think Never Screamer outlined just how the summer will be remembered. Coming outside your house everyday to see grey cloudy skies for days on end. Who’s going to even pay attention to stats, when it’s just so miserable and lacking in anything summery. Oh don’t do that. You might get banned for 7 days.

Coming to cinemas this Halloween : The Stats! - the law of averages.

Oh come on! It doesn’t need to be a 1954, or 1986. The truth is, it’s still on the side of poor for many people. Not much sunshine and not a lot of dry days.

Have you ever gone into the heat haters thread? Even a 2 day period of 25c gives them nightmares.

Remember it’s those stats that count!

No, I don’t know why people keep ignoring just how crap the peak summer was. It was cloudy for days on end. Wave the stats flag and ‘it was the best June ever’ all you want. It won’t change the general consensus, that Summer 23 was on the poor side. I know it wasn’t all terrible for 3 months, but there was a big chunk of 7 weeks where the weather was really dire.

Winter is still a long way off. Anything can happen, and we need to get through Autumn first.

It’s tiring isn’t it, having to continuously go over it. They keep wheeling out the brilliant June. It was nice, but it wasn’t enough to ‘save summer’ lol.

2023 is way down. Yeah, as good as June was, it was forgotten by many by late July.

I was stating a fact that some cool Septembers don’t always lead to a colder winter.

No, you’re wrong. I will use summer if 1983 and 1984 as an example of what people would expect from a decent summer. And both of those were 40 years ago, and back during a time when you would get the so called poor summers. We still get them now, but we should expect a decent summer like 83 or 84 at least every 3-4 years. Nobody is asking for 35c plus days. Most people are hoping for longer spells of settled weather between 23-27c, with maybe the odd few days here and day of 28-30c. I think 10-12 days across all the three summer months wouldn’t be too much to ask for, with a cool rainy interlude to last for 2-4 days in between during June to August. What the heat haters seem to conveniently ignore is, the lack of pleasant sunny periods of warm summer weather, which were absent after the latter part of June(yes June was lovely, but it wasn’t perfect to begin with), a couple of hot sunny days in early July, then a long grey miserable period of weather all the way through July until mid August. It was relentlessly cool and dull, with many days feeling more autumnal than high summer. So, while you and other coldies might argue, we should be grateful for the warm sunny June, it’s not enough when the following 2 months have offered so little in the way of average sunny dry weather, to enable people to enjoy outdoor activities, as opposed to being restricted to sitting in a dull tea room or outdated amusement arcade, or forced to sitting in a pub, because the weather is inclement. The above criteria may very well, suit people like yourself and other heat hating folk, and there’s nothing wrong with that. But for me personally, it’s been utterly depressing to have to endure weeks on end of grey clag, rainy spells of weather, and having to stay indoors or wrap up warm when outdoors, due to the poor high summer weather we had to tolerate. I feel sorry for families who couldn’t afford to go abroad this summer and had their U.K. breaks in July and August, because it’s been close to abysmal. Anyway, hope I chose my words carefully without coming across ‘provocative’ as someone stated in another post.

It depends where you were in Europe. Not everywhere was baking hot. Iberia usually suffers from intense heat at times. Places like the Baltics, and other parts of Central Europe had a relatively warm summer, with a few storms here and there.

Not so sure about the sunnier bit. Most days were dull during July and only the second half of august had some sunnier days. You can’t polish a turd.

Stop being overdramatic. The world didn’t burn lol.

March was still chilly at times, but in all honesty, march is usually when I start looking for less cold weather and the first hints of some nice warmish days into the high teens on the odd occasion. Yeah, sometimes it does happen, but I can give at least two occasions where a cold September led to a very mild winter. 1994 was one example, and 1992 was also another one.

You say that, but the summer was pretty bad. June was good, but July and August were mostly poor. Mid to late August saw a slight improvement, I’ll give you that.

To be fair, I’ll take a winter 2020/21 again. That seemed to have enough variety for me, despite not much snow. Lots of chilly and coldish days, plus some dry crisp periods during the second half of December. Some nice sunny days in the latter half of February.

We really don’t need years like 85-87 again. They were horrible summers.

Yeah, I hear you. But, don’t worry, the stats still tell us it was warm lol. The lack of sunny days really shows how bad it was this summer.

I would take the Czech summer anytime over the U.K. one.

I also hate Americanisms. ‘Baller’ ‘what up’ ‘for real’. That’s the language for fools.

I didn’t say anything about wanting a mild winter lol. And the summer had a number of days that felt chilly, not just one of two. Clearly you are someone who thinks daytime highs above 20c are warm or hot. Many people don’t feel hot until it hits the mid 20s. Case closed.

25-27c is acceptable for a daytime summer high. For me, this is where summer 23 was lacking. Most days stuck in the 20-22c bracket, so while warm at times when the sun did shine, it wasn’t warm enough to enjoy the nice summery evenings, while sitting outside in the garden or dining Al fresco. Low 20s doesn’t cut it for me, but the flip side is a better nights sleep. 27c however, is the sweet spot for just being hot enough, where as 30c is where it starts to become too hot(although I can still handle it), and 22-23c isn’t warm enough.

Yeah it’s never happening again. It’s mild from now on. It didn’t feel warm.

You speak my language. This weather is utter dung for late august lol.