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  1. As known, the MJO is one of various reasons behind the SSW we are experiencing now (more of a influencer on extratropical patterns, but that's a story for another time). It's basically a GFS vs EC match ATM, with GFS with a stall and weakening sequence, and the EC with a more slow progression into P8&1. But longer term VP200 GFS is returning good for potential for P1&2. Apart from the benefits for Eastern troughing, this indicates a extratropical movement (to GWO p1&2), which could also improve longer term outlooks for Eastern America (First Week of March onwards...) VP200 on GFS for preview. EC Monthly and POAMA show a long period in the COD during the first half of March, so the prospects aren't great. But NWP is dicey, and anything could happen. And for that -AAM to occur, we really want a proper tropical lead, to bring MTs, et al down. EC Monthly with a P7 stall and weaken, with a tight grip into the COD, and stalling as a very weak signal. POAMA with a slower progression around P8&1 into the COD, although ending in the same conclusion as the ECMON. Intriguing current GWO conditions, with a rapid increase in Worldwide MT over the past few days. This is based upon (mostly) increases in all MT regions, with EAMT increasing and now slightly decreasing, but it is still in the negative zone. MT in the Andes and Rockies is positive and increasing, which is probably behind the spike in the MT. The FT is currently in the negatives, and with MJO signalling in the IO we should see more of this. Then we should see the trop>extratrop link that Tamara and others are talking about, the +FT > +MT. This would be much more possible with a MJO propagation to the IO. The NWP is against this however, as shown above. Will the +MT be enough to convert the AAM to positives again? Will the NWP turn up correct, and we end up stuck in a -AAM phase? Only time can help. But keep up the interesting posts from all...
  2. Aka MJO > Strat > MJO feedback loop. There's also the GWO in that equation, but it is harder to point out how it fits in. I wouldn't say really solid Niña atmosphere, the SOI has been into Niño stages at times, and now the AAM has shown Niña the door. Once we get some Oceanic feedback, we can proceed further into knowing how that impacts the later stages of the year. Stepping stones.... I am certainly not going for a big -AAM at that stage. I will be awaiting this tropical -FT
  3. While some are using Niña composites, and drawing trends to a Niña base state, here and the specialist threads, plus Twitter, etc, it is important to point out that we are slowly leaving Niña. And the +AAM has shown us that the Niña base state is moving away, and we are heading to a more neutral state ENSO wise. While MJO driven, this in itself is going to be very important in the coming month. Are we going to see another +AAM orbit soon (end of Feb/early March)? Are we even going to go to P2&3 GWO? You can't always follow GEFS and the NWP models, you have to think outside of the box, and move with the times. Potential for GWO effects into Spring will be important for setting the stones into place for the UK summer, and ultimately next winter. But let's think less big, and think about the now. A little summary.... MJO is now apparently moving out of it's P7 stall. GEFS and GEPS want a continued stall, and weakening into COD, bypassing any P8 progression. EPS and JMA want a P8 and P1 progression slowly weakening to the COD. Interesting to see which one is successful, currently GEFS is one up, with it's correct prediction of a strong MJO signal stall in P7. MT is currently slightly negative/mostly neutral, with an EAMT increase in difference with the trend over the past week, which saw a large negative tendency in the MT. This is causing a movement towards GWO Phase 8, as predicted. (Latest GWO chart: 13th Feb) With the Nina influence clearly waning, maybe we won't see a proper -AAM phase. A slower lead from FT, may be indicating a lesser -AAM stage, and a quicker return to +AAM territory. But for the interim, the SSW impacts should out-muscle the effects of the GWO for the time being, but the GWO is an important consideration going into March. What that means for the UK, is a trickier task to point out, and I'll leave that to more regional members here. The SSW is a clear sign of the times, but what lurks beneath will point to the long term. Whatever that means to the reader, I will wonder. But for me, a variety of NWP and teleconnections is the way to go. Linking the two, and asking the big questions about the effects on each other is what it's all about.
  4. Just following on from Tamara's great post above..... Frictional Torque is currently going into a negative trend. After a FT peak, then followed the current MT peak, that has sent the AAM to it's current position. Below is my thoughts, based on my observations and forecasts of the key drivers. The FT will continue to decline into the negatives, and bring the AAM into a negative trend, towards a GWO Phase 7 & 8. But the question is will the MT make a full decline as well? Yes, you could try and use NWP to try and work out whether the EAMT will take a dive, or what will the Rockies MT do? These are the questions that need to be asked. I am referring to the massive +EAMT, and the currently -RMT. Despite the sudden MT dive in the Rockies, the EAMT has been driving the Worldwide MT to levels that are quite literally off the charts. It is this, that has caused this AAM progression, that nobody forecasted and seems to defy the Niña base state. Whether this is an indicator of Niña weakening, or just a minor hiccup, isn't my question to answer, but many experts have been questioning the dominance of a Niña base state. Anyway, this is my 'forecast'(yellow line), with annotations included. This assumes that the MT has a large negative trend, maybe it doesn't, and acts like a Niño GWO cycle. But I personally doubt this will happen, IMO that shouldn't happen so suddenly. It's one thing to have a +AAM, and another to have a Niño like GWO cycle. Anyway interesting times ahead, let's keep watch for the next steps of the AAM's progression.
  5. Yes, Phases 6-7 tend to be the best for SSWs, so part of the forecast SSW involves that. I don't believe it will have much of an effect on the MJO weakening into P8 however.
  6. I know these have already been posted, but bigger picture EC46 Day 20-25 Day 25-30 Day 30-35 Day 35-40 Day 40-45 Full NAO forecast from the EC46.
  7. That's all correct. The MJO is good for HLB, and we need a rise in AAM for more blocking. That is a very simple way of putting it though, there's probably a way more complex answer for that. Ask away, this thread needs more questions....
  8. @nad, for your information here are the MJO verifications for NWP, predicting amplitude. As you can see, ECM and UKMO have pretty good forecasting skill for the MJO. The RMM sometimes doesn't represent the MJO signal very well, so VP200 can be better for that. Or Hovmollers. I always like these plots, because there are so many forecasts to compare. Most of the NWP models show decent amplitude into Phase 7. was meant to post this just after I finished it, but took me 16 hours to hit post.
  9. Yes, it's very encouraging. Would be better if we had a little more Phase 4 and a little less GEFS craziness, but it's definitely encouraging.
  10. Not really, I would be expecting more from a 'professional', than to just look at one model, that doesn't exactly have a massive reputation. It shows a bit of the Niña base state enacting upon the MJO, but not really. It might be a pitfall of EC, or an exxageration by RMM, etc. I know people who actually predicted that freeze, unlike Bastardi. A couple of guys from NY area, plus Anthony Masiello. They know their stuff, and used the strat + GWO + MJO + other factors, to predict the big freeze. I know Bastardi knows what the GLAMM is, but he fell into the GEFS trap like so many before him. There are varying standards of professional, just because someone holds a degree, doesn't mean they are better than an amateur. I have met amateurs that are so good at predicting long term patterns, they beat all, but the most elite professionals. And Bastardi is certainly not elite whatsoever.
  11. What a joke, that Bastardi guy. There's no chance MJO is hitting Phase 8. Niña base state will block that. MJO Phase 2-3 is totally plausible, like it did for the current cycle. But Bastardi is just throwing around wild MJO and other sub seasonal predictions, that we has no proof for. One of the cons of twitter popularity. GWO is sitting in Phase 3, not Phase 4 as the Schiraldi plots indicate. Again caution of -AAM bias from GEFS, but it shows an increase in AAM, but no proper GWO Phase 4 and all the coldie benefits that go with it. I offer the alternative, which is a proper GWO Phase 4 to 8, which gives a Scandi high and northerlies a better chance than normal. But does the MJO and the Niña base state have what it takes to bring us to that height. Frictional Torque is currently slightly positive, I suggest it will stay relatively neutral, perhaps to the negative side for the next while. Not quite sure about that, but we need the FT to play ball, if we want that GWO Phase 4. We need tropical FT from MJO Phase 6-7, to hit Niña Easterlies in the Central and Eastern Pacific. That moves onto positive mountain torque, that brings a GWO Phase 4 state into play. Sorry if I am explaining what Tamara, etc has said over and over again, but the mechanics of this are crucial, if this fails, no Phase 4 GWO. EPS is playing ball with my MJO Phase 6-7 prog, but remember not to play too much upon the RMM correlations. RMM fails, VP200 is probably the best viewing method of the MJO. GEFS VP200 Week 2 (MV) shows a weakening Phase 6-7, but still significant. This could still allow us to play with MJO and Niña = tropical +FT. I am going to leave the last word to a model I (and the vast majority) don't put much faith in. But it plays doubt upon, my theory above, and favours the GEFS AAM prog. A lack of Niña Easterlies would place doubt on a major tropical +FT Phase. I personally don't think a weakening of the Niña base state could happen, with the MJO prevailing. But it is important to explore all options of where we can go. The GFS Hovmoller shows the opposite, a weakening MJO, with Niña base state prevailing. Yet no tropical +FT to affect GWO/AAM. Very important to look at all pathways, which IMO I think it has been lacking in these threads for a while. We need to see all we can see, not just narrow our focus to the data we want to see. That makes for poor model analysis.
  12. That first study looks pretty good, and shows a good overview of the two main types of torque, and a lesser torque as well. This paper may be useful as well, talking about the different torques and their relationships. And this chart shows the GWO circulation, and the background consequences/signals, that lead to a certain GWO phase. This would be where the GFS GWO forecasts live, plus GWO correlations. http://www.atmos.albany.edu/student/nschiral/gwo.html Beware of the -AAM bias on those forecasts.
  13. 1. Yes it can. 2. It (Berguitta) is a consequence of the MJO, plus various other factors.
  14. Do you really believe GEFS on this, given its -AAM bias? I think a movement to GWO Phases 3&4 is certainly plausible, and could become more and more likely, as we move into February.
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