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TEITS perhaps it’s because your location is close to mine that I am biased towards your comments lol. But so well said! Surely the main point of this thread and as a hobby is to say what you see from all the available info and give your forecast. Harping on past failures of the cold arriving gets us nowhere. I have seen more failures than most of you because of my age but reminding every other post is not fun. For what’s it worth the Thursday scenario will turn out as a real mix and the dividing line will be fairly straight somewhere across the midlands Snow showers the further north you go sleety rain on the border, rain to the south. For my area only just on the sea level mark normally experience sleety rain in these set ups. Following on to the weekend, still guesswork.

Well said Catacol! But Congratulations to DIS1970. You will be my first ignore! You must have been very eager to make a comment. Sad that it was so pointless without any justification. Not seen as much divergence in recent years at such short timescales. Records will show that any real cold is rare beyond 7 days. However, not unknown and the large scale differences showing beyond next Friday, albeit more showing a relative cold breakdown just confirms what the the more knowledgeable are saying, Be patient and don’t get hung up in what is far FI in these scenarios.

Right on Matt, now get to bed lol.

Most would dream of the overall scenarios being shown by the majority. Everyday some early birds jump in on first few frames with their “it’s all over” comments without giving the run a chance to develop. Can you not wait a little then give an honest appraisal, if you still think it’s a poor run fine!

That’s a firm statement, not born out by records. On or near the immediate coast snow will always struggle in these scenarios. Those records will also show that the best snowfalls for the south evolve from these weather types.

Your first sentence should be made the best quote of the day. More and more on here keep comparing with the past! Go back just a few years and the matrix available were so different. Surely the time has come to comment on what we see now. Opinions on that will always differ but that,I thought, was the purpose of this thread. Taking the whole suites as they stand now I say that this weekend is finally a turning point for overall cold and from 60 years of weather watching a very typical cold spell with biggest risks of less cold in the south. It has always been that way.

Thank you Mark you have saved me a longer post. Shame on some of you early starters, learn some patience.

Matt read Good!

God to see you on here this evening Matt. Goodness what do a few of you want on here? You must spend the bulk of your time trawling for the worst chart and comment, not because you think it’s plausible but just to ring your doom bell. Believe me I have been following the weather much longer than some of you have been born! Agreed his forum is here for everyone to have a say. But ask yourself do I honestly believe what I am writing? For what it’s worth for me the overwhelming evidence is for a slowish burn to colder weather. The high is still sorting itself out so no real dramas in the next week but very different to the last weeks. Sorry but will go back to my burrow and keep quiet.

If I was you I would call it a night. You might cheer up in the morning

Matt never stop, you make my day. My total addiction started in the winter of 63. Waking every morning to see if I would have to go to school. Cheering to see another bitterly cold start and knowing all the school outside toilets would still be frozen solid so school still shut. what a difference to have advanced warning, if indeed the charts play out. 1963 was a bit like 1947 in that no one expected what was coming. Good to see the doom sayers a bit quieter now, Even if they end up right! Nothing to match that on show yet me thinks but starting with gradual buildup will do for me.

Lurky here with a plea not too delete this slightly off topic post. One of the joys for me is reading Matts posts, even allowing for the slight bias to cold . Felt for you over your loss, my eldest brother passed away this Christmas Day on his 80th birthday. The downside those deliberate pessimists who don’t really look at Synoptics just want to stir, you know who you are! What everything is showing me is a proper wintry spell, but gradual and probably overall long lasting. I have vivid memories of 1963 which may have had somewhat similar Synoptics but we simply didn’t have the information available in those days so it seemed to take everyone by surprise. Not expecting anything like that but watch the signals as they develop this spell into a good one for you youngsters

A long term lurker, who I hope, you will allow to make a comment relating to some of the recent posts regarding comparisons with that 1962/63 winter and the the current F1 possibilities. I am well old enough to remember that winter. My location then and now is the Fens of North Cambridgeshire. In truth that epic period took most forecasters by complete surprise. The week before the cold arrived here,(22nd Dec) had been particularly stormy and wet, Atlantic lows in dominance. The change was dramatic with a high moving in and setting in to the NE of the UK. There it stayed for much of the remaining winter into March. Obviously the amount of data available then could in no way compare to today. In my area we had heavy snow on Boxing Day but very little for the sixty day plus following. I read someone mentioned minor milder spells. Other than for some western areas that was hardly the case. Here for those 60 plus days the average mean did not reach 0C. The High pressure remained steadfast and only wobbled about causing some periods of stronger easterly winds and blizzard like days of the already fallen snow. Im only a layman on weather forecasting but the point I am trying to make is that you need very specific conditions to get anywhere near that kind of winter. PS at my age think I could survive without it

Yes Boxing Day in the Peterborough area, very heavy for these parts. Not much after through the whole freeze but that snow just hung around.

Goodness my first venture into the Regional Thread. Not sure I should have bothered! Too many prams! For goodness sake let the cold get in first!!! There has not been a proper forecast of snow before the early hours. Put your apps where they belong in the LOO!!!!!