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  1. 54 minutes ago, Alderc 2.0 said:

    Really?  Think it actually just suggests, and suggest extremely well anything over 60-65mph last night in that area was isolated and the Odiham gusts were very isolated. 

    The Odiham gusts were very local given that stations 30 miles either side returned maximum wind speeds in the low 50s

  2. 8 minutes ago, jackpunch said:

    And that's not accurate. Loftus in Cleveland measured a gust of 76mph, a remote radar station near Alnwick, Northumberland measured one at 99mph.

    Media now reporting 3 people dead as a result of the storm. 

    Yep. The NE took a proper smashing in the early hours. Loftus is incredibly exposed,  but my family live about 10 miles away. Looking at their damage this morning I'd say their gusts may have been in the low 60s

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  3. 28 minutes ago, Gowon said:

    It's fine for somebody to come and say " it wasn't too bad imby" - it's comments like "that wasn't a storm" which is annoying and especially for those that were impacted the greatest. It p***** me off and the winds didn't really affect me personally.

    Exactly my thoughts- hence my rant! Odiham isn't a million miles from me- but just because we didn't experience winds to that extent doesn't mean they didn't happen 🤷‍♀️

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  4. 21 minutes ago, chapmanslade said:

    Not everybody is asleep during the night. Many people work at night and the information gets used by authorities and Governments beyond the information to the general public. 

    A red warning was issued appropriately and will have been acted upon by authorities. Red warnings are only issued when there is certainty of severe impacts. They are rightly issued rarely and for short periods at short notice.

    As an example Aerodrome Weather Warnings were issued yesterday by the Met Office as part of the warning system, and as we know it was pretty chaotic last night in the aviation world so entirely appropriate.

     

     

    Like I said in my post, a lot of maintenance is done overnight and many  workers will be responding to emergency calls e.g loss of power, trying to keep main road and rail routes clear, fire,ambulance, etc. However, there comes a point when it's too risky to do anything and the red is issued. Winds along the East coast really escalated in the early hours and it was the right thing to do to prevent loss of life

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  5. 1 hour ago, rwtwm said:

    I can only assume the escalation to red is useful for on duty responders, and perhaps government/council funding rather than the wider public in this instance?

    I agree it does seem mad to upgrade in the dead of night, but if it was only for Joanne Public checking the app, it seems unlikely they'd have bothered?

    Just a reminder that a lot, maybe most, of our maintenance staff/ oncall responders will be working at night (2 of my family members are maintenance shift workers). The red warning will be mostly geared at those who are responding to possibly stand down until the wind abates. For most of us,tucked up in our beds, it matters not a jot if we've headed earlier warnings and battened down the hatches.. They're not issued for fun- lives are at risk and these warnings save lives.

    I'm thankful this was a Sunday evening/night event and that our overworked emergency services weren't pulled to breaking point. Maybe the metO should just go back to issuing alerts to them and not the public if they're going to get such negative responses from us

    22 minutes ago, Fiona Robertson said:

    Thank you for writing the post I was getting ready to write until I came across yours. Even during the approach of the storm I was becoming irritated that some seem to expect warning areas to be precise to within a few metres and the assumption that the warned-of weather is guaranteed. It is a warning, it uses terminology like probability, possibility, may, chance of... tentative language

     

    @DJ Fart I'm going to give the benefit of the doubt and assume that you didn't intend to suggest that there may be peeps on here lying to get attention. I'm glad that you suffered no or very little damage and I'll celebrate that whilst I break out my little chainsaw to deal with the bird cherry that's come down in my garden across my front path.

     

    A quick read of the thread here demonstrates why the MetO are very wary of putting out warnings. It seems that there is a sizeable number who begrudge warnings for peeps in an area which may be about to get hit hard. This has been a theme for the last few months and I noticed it about 2 weeks after England had their October heatwave. As Scotland had a red warning for rain slapped on the east coast the complaints began, with peeps not realising that as they basked in their heatwave, that Scotland had had widespread flooding, some places were still flooded, the ground was saturated and a man had died. Sure enough,the atmospheric river hit the east coast of Scotland and peeps were flooded out of their homes again. However the complaints about Scotland's red warning stopped when a rain band from the system crossed the Midlands. Then out went the cry "We didn't get adequately warned!" The MetO can't win - they're damned if they do and damned if they don't. Yes, I've been cross to get a snow warning two hours into a blizzard. Postcasts help nobody. Last night, however, the red warning was in advance, albeit by only 90-odd minutes and it was a far more uncertain situation.

    Maybe if peeps were better able to understand the warning system, to grasp the tentative nature of them, they'd be more inclined to thank their lucky stars when they escape the worst of the impacts instead of begrudging the warning for peeps who did get hit hard. I'm sorry, I've had a pretty much sleepless night, I'm tired, I'm fraught and I have the "delight" of going out there in a still strong wind to chainsaw my beloved bird cherry.

    I'm sorry this happened to you. I hope you and your animals are safe and recover quickly

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  6. 53 minutes ago, ModestMention said:

    I agree, here we it wasn't as bad as the 2nd January for the maximum gust, but I can see over the country it was a far worse event.

    Generally, and I'm not just talking about this forum everyone wants to be the Main Character, there are fewer and fewer people looking at the bigger picture; it all about what has happened to me, myself personally and other evidence to the contrary is ignored.  

    Same here. Mercifully Henk was very short lived, but he caused chaos.

    I agree, there's a lot of "Told you it'd be better/ worse than it was". Maybe people need to remind themselves the warnings are for the emergency services to make plans and not for Joe Bloggs' opportunity to take pictures of the sea in hurricane force winds!

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  7. 45 minutes ago, Dignity said:

    As someone who works in emergency response for a local authority, I can safely say that certainly was a busy night shift! 

    Trees down all over Dundee, lot of debris around and lots of power cuts. Probably bit more damage to come in the light of day and people can assess how bad it's been.

    I've spent most of the night doing safety check on vulnerable people so I'm off to my bed and hopefully wake up to good news that it's not been as bad as I think it may have been.

    Huge thanks to you, your colleagues and everyone else who was looking after us on a foul night.

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  8. 9 minutes ago, Mapantz said:

    Never heard of it..

    Tayto? Best crisps in the world!.Not available outside ROI.

    Back on topic, don't think we've topped Henk's windspeeds yet,but in terms of longevity could have more impact. That is only local, obviously. 

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  9. 1 minute ago, damianslaw said:

    New season low in England, Shap at -11 degrees.

    Benson went down to -10.1 degrees.

    Not sure if these are confirmed.

    Awaiting Scottish figures..

     

    I can confirm Benson. -10.3 IMBY.

    Don't know why I don't post more in here! Probably because we don't really raise our eyebrows until it goes into double figures!

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  10. 14 hours ago, Ben Sainsbury said:

    Generally, in the world of weather 100 miles really isn't much! We've seen with Spanish Plume events for example, that despite cross model agreement things can be 50+ miles further east. Instances like Wednesday, where you've got a low sliding across N France is an incredibly delicate evolution, so I'd still expect to see some changes (good or bad). As @AWD says, it's not over until it's on radar, but that's just my hopeful weather nerd brain wanting snow 😄 

    That was me said that 🤭

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