Bruegelian

Hi CC, I would normally be down-spirited like you, with CFS and GLOSEA showing this signal (rock-solid as you say, and I think they are usually fairly good in verifying) - but the strange thing is , if you watch Gavs weather vids you will know that the BCC and ECM seasonal models are going for a negative NAO winter - really quite different to CFS and GLOSEA. Indeed Gav P was saying that the professionals are 'scratching their heads' as far as he knows. So personally I'm not as despairing as I would normally be, and I think maybe this winter might suprise us somewhat.

Hi there MWB, great analysis there, thanks for the info.

Hi everyone, first post on here, though have been a member of TWO for a few years, so know how the game works and all that Just wanted to say that I seem to remember that part of the problem last year with getting cold spells was lack of low pressure to our south, but I think this year maybe looks more favourable in that respect.