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Fergie posted earlier that that is an old wives tale. Zero difference

Squally thundery shower just now in Donegal. Lights flickering

Jesus. Hopefully it picks up

Exactly. That is my point. I provided those to illustrate it. That's why I said they were over rated and they didn't amount to anything. The background signals were wrong so I don't treat them like gospel like most do.

Fair enough but the background signals didn't amount to anything so far this Winter,over rated IMO. A post from Fergie 14th Nov " Worth adding that latest EC Monthly again raises GPH/MSLP to our NW with mean N'ly flow as we switch into Dec. Interestingly it then also develops (2nd week Dec) quite marked -ve GPH anomaly from Scandinavia to the UK, coupled to equally marked -ve MSLP across S UK and directly eastwards into adjacent NW Europe, with attendant appearance of +ve PPN anomalies by that stage. Fascinating times indeed.." Again on the 28th "EC Monthly consistent with Glosea and it's last runs. Strong resurgence of +ve MSLP/GPH anomalies north of UK further into Dec, especially Xmas week, with marked -ve temp anomalies developing across adjacent contiguous Europe as N'ly flow veers to mean easterly late Dec. Good to see both suites in such firm agreement, despite inherent issues of confidence at such lead time."

STATUS ORANGE Wind Warning for Coastal regions and high ground of Donegal, Galway and Mayo Very windy on Friday: Southerly winds, later west to southwest of 65 to 75 km/h with severe gusts between 100 and 120 km/h. Issued:Wednesday 21 December 2016 10:00 Valid:Friday 23 December 2016 06:00 to Friday 23 December 2016 18:00 STATUS YELLOW Wind Warning for Rest of the country Very windy on Friday: Southerly winds, later west to southwest of 50 to 65 km/h with gusts between 90 and 110 km/h, strongest on exposed coasts. Issued:Wednesday 21 December 2016 10:00 Valid:Friday 23 December 2016 06:00 to Friday 23 December 2016 18:00 But yeah pretty pitiful compared to what could have been.

Further South on UKMO. Track and intensity far from nailed down yet

STATUS YELLOW Weather Advisory for Ireland A potentially stormy spell of weather is likely later this week and over the Christmas weekend. In particular, Friday looks like bringing stormy weather, with the north and west most at risk, but the details are still uncertain at this stage. Issued: Monday 19 December 2016 13:00 Valid: Thursday 22 December 2016 12:00 to Monday 26 December 2016 23:59

met.ie THURSDAY: A cold day with early morning showers tending to retreat back to Atlantic coasts - some hill snow occurring across the far northwest through the day. Becoming mostly dry elsewhere with sunny spells and light southwest breezes. Highest temperatures of just 4 to 8 degrees, coldest across Ulster and north Leinster. Frost for a time early in the night. FRIDAY: Present indications suggest stormy conditions will occur, very wet and very windy, with warnings likely to come into operation. Relatively mild with highest temperatures of 9 to 12 degrees. Ingredients are there for a deep storm this week. It's just a case of wait and see

Met office update for NI- Outlook for Wednesday to Friday: Turning colder with blustery wintry showers on Wednesday and Thursday, some snow to lower levels at times in the west. Heavy rain and gale or severe gales on Friday. Updated at: 0234 on Mon 19 Dec 2016

I'd say a decent chance of seeing snow(falling at least) for the NW this upcoming week. 170m asl you have a better chance than most

It's kicking off again in there lol

I got 4 highly strung pms for saying I didn't believe in long range FC's. Sensitive bunch is more accurate

Aye. Would be a red alert for sure if it verified. Winds over 100mph just off the West coast at 1pm Xmas day

Santa will have a turbulent ride

I remember I had just turned 9 the week before. I was watching Honey I shrunk the kids and TV kept going on and off haha. My dad had to collect my brother when it was starting to get out of hand, I remember watching out the window as he fell in to the garden ha. We had no electricity for 4 days, trees felled, slates/Debris all over the street etc. I remember total darkness and flashes of lightning with hail/sleet battering off the window and listening to the Battery powered radio I had just got ha. That's what turned me in to a weather nut but always had an interest before. Met.ie have a nice account of that storm. http://www.met.ie/climate-ireland/weather-events/Dec1998_Storm.PDF Malin Head gust 110mph Castlederg 97mph for an inland station is quite something Totals for Finner Camp are sadly just estimates.

People are entitled to their view that LRF are hocus pocus.... . If Jesus Christ himself gave his Winter prediction I would take it with a pinch of salt. People need to stop being so sensitive. This Winter was a massive fail in terms of LRF from the Met Office concerning front loaded cold. That is a FACT. Yes things constantly change as you've alluded to and that is exactly the point, things change in the short term that rubbish predictions for the long term. No one is being attacked, I don't buy LRF or give much credence to these background signals as they usually amount to nothing. I respect that other people do, and they should respect those who don't. To be accused of being an armchair critic for simply having a different viewpoint is childish. Difference of opinion is a wonderful thing.

100mph plus for places

Idk how I have you both quoted but can't delete. Well this would certainly be a shock to the system if it came off

Exactly. This Winter is testament to that. No point getting hung up on what LRF show but many do and its rinse repeat each time.

Didn't Glosea indicate a cold loaded first half to Winter?

Euro model is about as ugly as it gets. Trump wouldn't even rate her 1 out of 10. I preferred last Winter lol

But only last week most if not all thought it would be a bumper December. Look how that turned out thus far. People need to get a grip its the 7th of December. All the predictions have been hogwash