Winter Frost

You keep saying the meridian but do you mean 20 degrees west (on gfs) or Greenwich? I think if you mean Greenwich then it really won't impact us.

7c drizzle. Its been raining constantly.

I don't know what the people are moaning about the American cold pool for, it is going to bring colder weather for me at least than what an easterly would bring. The 510 dam line actually makes it out past 50 west, eventually cold will reach here that will provide snow. The cold pool keeps getting upgraded with each run.

Thats not entirely true. We had two snowfalls here and there was as much as 8 inches of snow at 200m around January/February time. Cold zonality can be good here. I am expecting some snow from it soon.

It doesn't look too cold to me with double figure maximums. Thats mild.

Neither could I. I would have a disaster attack, it was awful just constant rain rain and you were lucky if you got wet snow..

Yes thats true but they have gotten their fair share of well below average winters recently and the pv constantly dropping in there. Our winters really are over once we see cold there.

I think it will be similar too and I don't buy a cold December like Tamara said. Also I do though think that it will be cold for a short while and colder than last year. Personally don't get steves view because to me it didn't really matter as the easterly was warm.

Is it not just the same old nonsense every year though? I've yet to see those charts show below average temps.

Why is there an inversion in Denmark but not here?

It lied at 1500 feet. I think it might differ for NI versus England.. Our cold and snow comes from the NW not the East. I am nearly sure its easier to get snow at christmas than easter since its coldest in December here. I can totally see where you are coming from but I think the people on the model thread need to be more broad in their discussion instead of only thinking of se england where the climate is quite a bit different. It definitely snows in November here. Bar last year most years have had first snow falling in November. Our NW position helps

Why do people on this forum and other forums continue to insist that its too early for snow in November? It snowed in Northern Ireland last week to 1,000 feet its definitely not rare. Can't understand this phenomenon.

I don't care what they say. They do not make the weather they forecast...

-1 Frosty

Just under 2 and foggy