irishlad69

how can two charts be so different and which one will be correct

i like the look of this, i realise its two weeks out but would be great

which is the most reliable charts, GFS or ECMWF, as they are giving different forecasts for next week

Hi All been a while, glad to be back, i see the charts are pointing to a cold scenario from this weekend, lets hope they are true to form

It looks to be pretty cold from the 1st January, i am liking the models, even though i would have liked it to be a week earlier

I really do wish people would stop going on about models, they are useless after 3 days, even that's at a push, models only go where the data that's put into them make them go. As for easterlies, no one had a clue that easterlies where coming in 2009/2010 until a few days before hand, so anything can happen Personally i will take it day by day, these so called forecasters like Madden, Bastardi, Vogan, they know no more than what we all do and that's why they never get it right, and if they do its a fluke, guess work at best.

I do believe the scientist is a female

i find it interesting that people sill seem to think that computer models can predict the weather and what cold months followed by warm months or a warm month followed by cold months, if we look hard enough we will always find scenarios that we want to find but it does not mean anything really. Mother nature will always do what she wants regardless of what the computer says or what warm or cold months there is. My personal view is that two major factors predict what type of weather we will have and that's Sunspot numbers and the North Atlantic Current, and this year i believe we will have a cold winter but not so sure about how much snow. I have read that a scientist has predicted that the sun is not only declining in sunspot numbers but is also cooling and we could be in another ice age within 15-20 years, interesting.

i do believe there are two major influences in the northern hemisphere, and they are sunspot number, and the north Atlantic current, just like2009,when there was the BP oil spill that disrupted the current and the sunspot number was 0 that year, what happened, a great winter. however this year the sunspot number is low, the current is going well which tells me the winter will be colder, but maybe not snowy.

i think we will have a cold Christmas this year due to the low sunspot number, whether it snows or not is a different matter

what is the most reliable model

I see a couple of the charts are going colder going into December, I know its a bit far out but its better than nothing

piers corbyn is never repeated on here because he is nearly always right, and he goes against the grain of the met office, he is a very reliable forcaster

can anyone tell me exactly when the current solar cycle is meant to end, as the sun is meant to go extremely quiet after that, sorry its a bit off topic

apparently we will be heading for a blocking over Greenland heading into Jan, does anyone know if there is any truth in the matter, lets hope so

exactly, charts charts charts, they are rubbish after 3 days

I hope your right, I could do with a good fix of the white cold stuff,

I know what you mean and hope your right however remember the cold spell we where meant to get over a week ago, and 3 days before it all changed, and it only lasted 24 hrs rather than the 3-5 days that was stated a week before

is it just me or from the 22nd/23rd December and according to both ECMWF & GFS there will be a big battle between the warmth and the cold, although I don't believe in the charts that far out, due to the fact the say different things but they are going the same direction this time

I agree, maybe Egypt

although I agree with what you say however the majority of us coldies, or at least I hope the majority would love to have snow for Christmas day, at least not for us but for the kids

I am not sure if you all believe in this sort of thing, but I was going for a newspaper at 0800hrs the sky was bright red and then from no where hundreds of geese was flying over head, and I mean that literally, hundreds of geese, I have never in my life seen such a large flock, it was quite eerie as they turned south westwards, maybe I am just hoping this is a really good sign

I agree with you there but I believe it will be colder around the 20th/21st, that's just my personal view

I agree with you there, and as far as I am concerned all the other charts change every day, so whats not to say the CFS chart is correct or not correct for that matter

we still have two weeks until Christmas day, I aint giving up yet