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The thunderstorms arent all that but then I go to Florida regularly so maybe my bar is high. My lad lives in Pompey and he really reports a thunderstorm, same story here closer to London. As I say, the heat, however is real. The Bakerloo line on a hot day is an experience

Yep, I think you are right. I think 2011 had no snow falling, I think every other year there has been a flake or 2 at least.

Its interesting now that you mention it. We down South have this thought that the North always has the snow whereby we get scraps but is it actually true? A few of my events experienced aside from 1980's (numerous), 1987, 1991: 2008/9? = 10cm's lasted a whole week Dec 2009 = 21cm lasted past Christmas Jan 2010 = 34cm lasted for 2 weeks Dec 2010 = 10cm lasted over a week, then again another 8cm that also lasted a week 2012? = 12cm lasted a week 2013 - 2017 several one day events of 5cm ish 2018 = 9cm's lasted 4/5 days 2020 = 1cm lasted a week 2021 = 1 cm lasted a week 2023 = 8cm's lasted 2 days How does this compare? I expect its less, but is it really much less? And yes, those hot days are something else without aircon!

34.5 cm's for me in Reading

Dont wish to be argumentative, but this is not the thread for this. this thread is about peoples hobbies and something they are interested in. There is enough doom and gloom to be found elsewhere and I am pretty sure absolutely nobody is ignorant of the reasons why. After the last few years we need to allow people to enjoy themselves I think.

2 very different views above

Just looking at purchasing one of these (HP2552) and have a few questions if anyone knows the answer: 1. Do any of these record sunshine hours? 2. With the WH57 lightning detector - is it the case that it only alarms at a DP of 70 +. If so, does that happen very often here in the uk? Is it worth getting one? 3. I see that you can upload data to WU, WOW etc. Does this cost and does it keep historic or is something else reqd? 4. If I were to get an additional Temp sensor could that be sited in a Stephenson screen and still read from the console and if so can that be reported to above websites? The reason I ask is that I always seem to notice the temp react to the sun even with the shields. Is this a noticeable issue with these models? Thanks for any help, very much appreciated

Has the midlands moved to Yorkshire?

That’s rain

Absolutely, I would hope that sst's, sun strength and ground temp would be right up there with the parameters being used.

Interesting. It would have to be something quite exceptional to get ice days and snow that time of year (what I term as the holy grail) bt if it can be extreme cold can it at least be snowy please weather gods

Thanks. I assume the models werent aware of this then.

Its warmer than expected today. Was expecting another ice day but temp is already 1

And Edinburgh looks beautiful anyway, cant imagine what its like with the snow

Amazing stuff up in Scotland. Enjoy. I wonder why these conditions have lead to a record cold night. The uppers are nothing special and its not been particularly prolonged. My guess would be the extreme snowfall coupled with the uppers.

2/10 for snow. Very little only a few dustings 6/10 for Temps. 1 true ice day where temp stayed at -1 all day. I call it true as it wasnt due to a frosty start or cloud cover just that it was that cold if you know what I mean. As mentioned before felt it was overhyped. Defo not a Beast from the East. -12 uppers dont deliver now either

The problem for me was Simon King from BBC R5 that on Friday morning said that we were in for "significant disruptive snowfall in the south and east". I then checked the met office forecast and indeed each day from Sunday to Thursday was an ice day with snow all day Sunday. Thats when my expectations were set. I am sensible enough not to listen to the mad fred peeps as they are prone to excitment. Simple fact is it didnt do what the met men said it was going to do. Reality was very little snow, the odd dusting. Light snow falling for just shy of a decade and 1 ice day so far.

Also, wasnt even that cold. -11 uppers lead to 2c maxes yesterday. What sort of 850's do we need to get these days. Although I know Monday was an ice day we were expecting 4/5. Reality so far - 1

Yes, having just been out for a walk its surprising how few areas there are that dont get touched by the sun this time of year. Its not melting much in the shade, but then there isnt much shade!

Very interesting. I was just out for a walk in the woods and the ground is still muddy and not frozen. Most puddles completely unfrozen in the woods (Sandy soil). Yesterday whilst out and about all puddles on the concrete and roads were frozen solid (cant check today as staying at home). I was wondering if the sandy soil has something to do with it as sand conducts heat and loses heat very quickly. Any thoughts anyyone?

They seem to be going just North of us to Wokingham, Sandhurst etc

I am in Farnborough in NE Hants. It does look like they are heading our way but who knows. If they are not heavy enough and with the temp warmer than expected we may get very little settling. Just a 1cm dusting or so here now and thats starting to go from roads and pavements. Whereabouts are you?

Its probably due to the ground temps being above freezing but someone with more knowledge might be able to help

Thats great to hear. Send it down to N east Hants please.

Lets hope so, this is our last chance today. Really quite a let down so far. Its funny as a few ice days, very low dp's and some snow around would normally leave me very happy, but so much more was forecasted.