Weather-history

Wettest winters on record for England and Wales 423.0 1914-15 420.9 1989-90 419.8 2013-14 Up to 17th February Wettest seasons on record for England and Wales: W for winter, S for summer, A for autumn A 502.7 2000 A 455.8 1852 A 438.6 1960 A 424.1 1935 W 423.0 1914-15 W 420.9 1989-90 W 419.8 2013-14 up to 17th February Wettest February on record for England and Wales (mm) 158.6 1833 152.7 1923 143.6 1950 143.2 1990 143.2 1977 142.1 1937 132.0 1916 131.7 1900 130.0 1848 129.6 1966 129.1 1768 124.2 1925 123.5 1915 116.0 1918 115.3 1812 115.1 2002 114.9 1995 114.1 1851 114.0 1823 113.5 1776 112.1 1904 111.6 2007 109.1 1881 107.7 1883 107.4 1866 105.8 1974 105.4 1879 105.3 2001 104.9 1826 103.7 1813 103.5 1893 103.4 1910 102.6 1774 102.5 1935 102. 2014 up to 17th

This is the equation I devised to measure the "wintriness" of a winter. 10 x [(the number of days with lying snow)+(number of days with falling sleet/snow)+(number of days where the temperature has been at below 0C)] divided by the mean maximum temperature. At the moment it is just 7. I have only recorded 3 air frosts since the 1st December. I saw falling snow for the first time last Tuesday (11th February) This winter has been an absolute shocker for wintriness. Even 1988-89, I saw lying snow at the back end of February, I saw lying snow during 1989-90. In 1997-98, I saw lying snow at the start of December. This winter, nothing except slight patchiness from Tuesday's brief fall. Looking at the charts, snow and frost prospects look extremely limited at best. Least wintriest winters of recent times 2013-14: 7 up to 17th February 1988-89: 20 2006-07: 21 1997-98: 25 1974-75: 26 1989-90: 26 1973-74: 30 1987-88: 37 2007-08: 37 1991-92: 40 1975-76: 41 1999-00: 42 1992-93: 43 2002-03: 44 1994-95: 45 1998-99: 47 2004-05: 47 2011-12: 47 2001-02: 50 2003-04: 50

Our Northern Irish, Welsh and SW members will remember this well as it gave some heavy snowfalls on this northerly flow Did see some snow from this.

What happened there?

Manchester Winter Index is heading for its lowest ever value. I have lived through some winters devoid of much wintriness but never too this level. What has compounded it was the lack of wintriness during the autumn. There were a few frosts in November but that was it. About 11 frosts since the start of November is really low.

Wettest winters on record for England and Wales 423.0 1914-15 420.9 1989-90 418.3 1876-77 415.8 2013-14 Up to 15th February Wettest seasons on record for England and Wales: W for winter, S for summer, A for autumn A 502.7 2000 A 455.8 1852 A 438.6 1960 A 424.1 1935 W 423.0 1914-15 W 420.9 1989-90 W 418.3 1876-77 W 415.8 2013-14 up to 15th February Wettest February on record for England and Wales (mm) 158.6 1833 152.7 1923 143.6 1950 143.2 1990 143.2 1977 142.1 1937 132.0 1916 131.7 1900 130.0 1848 129.6 1966 129.1 1768 124.2 1925 123.5 1915 116.0 1918 115.3 1812 115.1 2002 114.9 1995 114.1 1851 114.0 1823 113.5 1776 112.1 1904 111.6 2007 109.1 1881 107.7 1883 107.4 1866 105.8 1974 105.4 1879 105.3 2001 104.9 1826 103.7 1813 103.5 1893 103.4 1910 102.6 1774 102.5 1935 101.6 1997 100.9 1941 100.7 1957 99.2 1775 98. 2014 up to 15th February

Some of the damage caused by Wednesday's gale The Chat Moss monster.

Wettest winters on record for England and Wales 423.0 1914-15 420.9 1989-90 418.3 1876-77 415.6 1994-95 412.8 2013-14 Up to 14th February Wettest seasons on record for England and Wales: W for winter, S for summer, A for autumn A 502.7 2000 A 455.8 1852 A 438.6 1960 A 424.1 1935 W 423.0 1914-15 W 420.9 1989-90 W 418.3 1876-77 W 415.6 1994-95 W 412.8 2013-14 up to 14th February Wettest February on record for England and Wales (mm) 158.6 1833 152.7 1923 143.6 1950 143.2 1990 143.2 1977 142.1 1937 132.0 1916 131.7 1900 130.0 1848 129.6 1966 129.1 1768 124.2 1925 123.5 1915 116.0 1918 115.3 1812 115.1 2002 114.9 1995 114.1 1851 114.0 1823 113.5 1776 112.1 1904 111.6 2007 109.1 1881 107.7 1883 107.4 1866 105.8 1974 105.4 1879 105.3 2001 104.9 1826 103.7 1813 103.5 1893 103.4 1910 102.6 1774 102.5 1935 101.6 1997 100.9 1941 100.7 1957 99.2 1775 97.7 1876 97.0 1783 95.8 1833 95.2 1772 95.1 2000 95.1 1819 95. 2014 up to 14th February

Or was this winter to make up for last summer?I don't believe in weather auditors. It could be just a bog standard summer.

Nothing unusual in the fact that we have wet and dry cycles, it is the intensity in particular the wet cycles at the moment that have been unusual. Was March 2010-March 2012 that dry? I'm sure April 1995-April 1997 was even drier.

Classic Fohn set up with low pressure to the NW of UK, high pressure to the SE of UK and the UK under a broad tropical maritime SWLy airstream Maxima recorded 17.4C. Llandudno 16.5C. Orleton 15.4C. Camden Square 15.1C. Leicester 14.8C. Mansfield 14.7C. Cardiff 14.4C. Manchester 14.4C. Dublin

The emoticon used is a big clue. My observation is on the emoticon.-----> It ain't a shock. If it was showing 10C 850hpa and maxima in the high teens maybe. With this winter, if it was showing high pressure sat over the UK. Definitely!!!

I don't know why you are hyping this up. It is certainly mild but nothing out of the ordinary to be honest but more importantly it is not dry. And this is the most important factor here. We need a decent anticylonic spell and there isn't any.

It's hard to believe that a centre of high pressure last sat over some part of the British Isles was the start of December about 10 weeks ago. This winter must be up there with being one of the most cyclonic winters even seasons on record and there is no sign of high pressure having total control over our weather right to the end of the meteorological winter. Last occasion I can recall such a prolonged cyclonic spell is autumn 2000.

Wettest winters on record for England and Wales 423.0 1914-15 420.9 1989-90 418.3 1876-77 415.6 1994-95 397.8 2013-14 Up to 13th February Wettest seasons on record for England and Wales: W for winter, S for summer, A for autumn A 502.7 2000 A 455.8 1852 A 438.6 1960 A 424.1 1935 W 423.0 1914-15 W 420.9 1989-90 W 418.3 1876-77 W 415.6 1994-95 S 409.7 1912 S 409.2 1879 A 402.4 1770 A 400.6 1772 A 399.1 1875 A 398.7 1768 W 397.8 2013-14 (up to 13th February) Wettest February on record for England and Wales (mm) 158.6 1833 152.7 1923 143.6 1950 143.2 1990 143.2 1977 142.1 1937 132.0 1916 131.7 1900 130.0 1848 129.6 1966 129.1 1768 124.2 1925 123.5 1915 116.0 1918 115.3 1812 115.1 2002 114.9 1995 114.1 1851 114.0 1823 113.5 1776 112.1 1904 111.6 2007 109.1 1881 107.7 1883 107.4 1866 105.8 1974 105.4 1879 105.3 2001 104.9 1826 103.7 1813 103.5 1893 103.4 1910 102.6 1774 102.5 1935 101.6 1997 100.9 1941 100.7 1957 99.2 1775 97.7 1876 97.0 1783 95.8 1833 95.2 1772 95.1 2000 95.1 1819 94.8 1799 93.2 1869 93.1 1885 92.7 1835 92.4 1789 92.2 1967 92.0 1980 90.8 1897 90.6 1970 90.5 1989 89.7 1922 89.4 1831 89.3 1837 89.1 1946 88.2 1872 88.2. 1809 87.2 2010 86.2 1978 85.8 1894 85.3 1781 85.2 1994 84.8 1802 84.6 1884 84.3 1811 84.1 1960 84.1 1880 83.3 1996 82.8 1801 82.1 1914 81.6 1954 81.2 2011 81.2 1861 81.1 1769 80.5 1927 80.3 1926 80. 2014 (up to 13th)

About 388.9mm has been recorded in the last 9 weeks. That's about 6.2mm per day.

He did but he was about 5 years out....."The change to Atlantic based weather will herald quite possibly the most remarkably mild January ever seen. An intense Polar Vortex will be in place over Greenland and the downstream High known as the Bartlett will develop over mainland Europe, becoming anomalously strong at times.The mildest January ever recorded was 7.5C in 1916, and that record will be seriously under threat, with a blowtorch pattern setting up with SWerlies dominant. Some exceptional Spring like weather is likely across SE England in particular,as a blowtorch pattern sets up - it will be very wet and windy in Ireland and Western Scotland. This is the sort of chart that will dominate the month:"Trouble is that was in 2008.....

Didn't the Chinese long range forecast suggest a wet winter for this area?

Wettest winters on record for England and Wales 423.0 1914-15 420.9 1989-90 418.3 1876-77 415.6 1994-95 394.8 2013-14 Up to 12th February Wettest seasons on record for England and Wales: W for winter, S for summer, A for autumn A 502.7 2000 A 455.8 1852 A 438.6 1960 A 424.1 1935 W 423.0 1914-15 W 420.9 1989-90 W 418.3 1876-77 W 415.6 1994-95 S 409.7 1912 S 409.2 1879 A 402.4 1770 A 400.6 1772 A 399.1 1875 A 398.7 1768 A 396.9 1799 A 396.8 1976 S 396.3 1829 W 394.8 2013-14 up to 12th February Wettest February on record for England and Wales (mm) 158.6 1833 152.7 1923 143.6 1950 143.2 1990 143.2 1977 142.1 1937 132.0 1916 131.7 1900 130.0 1848 129.6 1966 129.1 1768 124.2 1925 123.5 1915 116.0 1918 115.3 1812 115.1 2002 114.9 1995 114.1 1851 114.0 1823 113.5 1776 112.1 1904 111.6 2007 109.1 1881 107.7 1883 107.4 1866 105.8 1974 105.4 1879 105.3 2001 104.9 1826 103.7 1813 103.5 1893 103.4 1910 102.6 1774 102.5 1935 101.6 1997 100.9 1941 100.7 1957 99.2 1775 97.7 1876 97.0 1783 95.8 1833 95.2 1772 95.1 2000 95.1 1819 94.8 1799 93.2 1869 93.1 1885 92.7 1835 92.4 1789 92.2 1967 92.0 1980 90.8 1897 90.6 1970 90.5 1989 89.7 1922 89.4 1831 89.3 1837 89.1 1946 88.2 1872 88.2. 1809 87.2 2010 86.2 1978 85.8 1894 85.3 1781 85.2 1994 84.8 1802 84.6 1884 84.3 1811 84.1 1960 84.1 1880 83.3 1996 82.8 1801 82.1 1914 81.6 1954 81.2 2011 81.2 1861 81.1 1769 80.5 1927 80.3 1926 79.1 1931 79.0 1919 78.7 1906 77.6 1877 77. Up to 12th February

You have made such comments in the past and to be frank, I find it a little disturbing. Surely you life doesn't not revolve around how cold and snowy a winter is? Yes if you are a snow fan it is disappointing but you should not let it dictate your life. There are plenty other things to do, other hobbies and pastimes. Snow should not be allowed to dictate your life.

It was bad last night but I don't think it was as bad when compared to Christmas Eve 1997 and January 2007. They were vicious around here.

Oh for goodness sake, NELyBlast, give it a rest.You go on about cold zonality and ruddy January 1984 and will we ever see it again?I ask the question, "will you ever shut up going on about it?"

It is interesting reading Nick Sussex's analyses in the model thread but what is very interesting is that he lives in France but comments on the UK weather prosects as though he lives here but does anyone know what is going on in France this winter? Has it been wet where he is? Has he had any snow this winter? No disrespect to Nick Sussex but I find it odd that there is hardly if any observation s for his area or talks about weather prospects for his area. I wouldn't begrudge him some IMBYism analysis in the model threads.

What we need, 13 years ago.

Wettest winters on record for England and Wales 423.0 1914-15 420.9 1989-90 418.3 1876-77 415.6 1994-95 388.3 1993-94 383.8 2013-14 Up to 11th February Wettest seasons on record for England and Wales: W for winter, S for summer, A for autumn A 502.7 2000 A 455.8 1852 A 438.6 1960 A 424.1 1935 W 423.0 1914-15 W 420.9 1989-90 W 418.3 1876-77 W 415.6 1994-95 S 409.7 1912 S 409.2 1879 A 402.4 1770 A 400.6 1772 A 399.1 1875 A 398.7 1768 A 396.9 1799 A 396.8 1976 S 396.3 1829 A 394.3 1872 A 391.1 1903 W 388.3 1993-94 A 387.9 1825 A 384.6 1841 W 383.8 2013-14 up to 11th February