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Mixer 85

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  1. I’ve safely arrived at work. There’s a lot of branches, trees and debris on the roads in my locality but was fine once I reached the motorway. Not much damage around my house thankfully. My sea buckthorn tree got uprooted but apple trees fared fine. I was having nightmares last night that the glass would be blown off my greenhouse and decapitate the cows in the field behind the garden. Here’s a few pics of the “carnage”
  2. Storm is starting to settle here in the north Irish Midlands. Still some fierce gusts but nothing compared to the constant roar an hour ago. Our electricity is out here which is something that hasn’t happened during a storm in the 15yrs I’m living here. I’ll soon be venturing out to make my commute to Kildare so it’ll be interesting to see what damage has occurred.
  3. What I find baffling is that some folk in here believe that the current warming is going to lead to a complete catastrophe and the extinction of our species. This is ludicrous and has no support from the scientific literature. @Scott Ingham I’ve always thoroughly enjoyed your posts and regard you as highly knowledgeable but I’m very much surprised with your above statements. Worth noting, you speak of grandkids on the same forum where it was suggested only a few pages back that we need to actively lower the global population to 150m. That would likely mean no grandkids for you or me and having just recently become the proud father to a beautiful 6 month old girl, I could never endorse any policies or ideologies that might deny her the right to have her own children and experience the love and fulfilment that can add to one’s life. Regarding the catastrophic outlook some believe justify such tyrannical actions, there have been periods in the past that have been much warmer and quite benign, where life has flourished. What makes this period of warming so different and so catastrophic? Honestly I’d be a lot more alarmed if temperatures were trending colder, then we’d have a real humanitarian catastrophe on our hands.
  4. I can’t see any way diesel could be responsible for the rather powerful explosion seen in the cctv footage. Diesel is only explosive under immense heat and pressure. I wonder if it’s possible that the fire was burning low for a time behind the scenes before igniting whatever caused that explosion?
  5. There’s always an expectation on politicians to do more. Question is more of what exactly? I can almost guarantee that the policies you support will not lift the poor out of poverty or raise the standard of living for anyone. Ultimately climate action is energy policy and energy policy is complicated. Even if wind, solar and heat pumps could fix climate change, there’s no way the above can power a thriving western economy. So bottom line as far as I can see it, you want to use fear and compulsion to coerce people into voting for politicians who are willing to shrink our economies and lower our standards of living, meanwhile China and the global south continue expanding their coal usage. Your last paragraph doesn’t warrant discussion as it’s a rather silly straw man argument. All in all I’ve no problem with the odd mention of climate change under certain circumstances for educational purposes etc, but you have admitted that you want to push an agenda which would render any mention as propagandistic.
  6. It’s important I stress that I’m not trying to debate the reality of climate change but what you appear to be advocating is to use weather forecasts as a means for instilling fear, the necessity of which is very much dependent on future outlook which is still very much up for debate. You claim the consequences of climate change are already taking place, if by that you’re referring to ‘catastrophic’ consequences then I really don’t see much evidence for that. Even the IPCC reports show little evidence of anything apocalyptic in the short to long term. All debate aside, what do we expect can be gained by further educating and alarming the public? The poor and lower middle classes are stretched to their limits already and don’t have the means to do anything meaningful. The wealthy and upper middle class I’m sure are already well versed on climate change and therefore already do what they can or choose not to do anything.
  7. Truth is not everyone shares the view that we’re headed toward a climate catastrophe, and again we run the risk of labelling every unusual weather event as being connected to climate change without the evidence to support it. In my opinion that’s political activism to try actively change public opinion. With regard to the wording and phrases like pleasant vs chilly. That’s simply describing how the weather feels. For humans warmth is pleasant whilst cold is uncomfortable and potentially dangerous. I see no problem with a forecast describing what physiological effects to expect when headed outdoors.
  8. Morning @alexisj9, I don’t see a major problem with mentioning climate change from time to time as a talking point, as similarly astronomical events get mentioned but I don’t think that’s what the original poster was alluding to. The original poster from what I can tell is calling for a more active role from forecasters in promoting climate change with an alarmist view. This under the guise of alerting and educating more people. The problem here is the assumption that people still need to be told about climate change, but, unless you’ve been living under a rock for the past 20yrs you’re going to be aware of climate. There’s also the rabbit hole of attribution, lines could vary easily get blurred there and then it’s possible that many might construe what should be a weather forecast as political activism, depending on how thick the agenda is laid on.
  9. Personally I’d prefer forecasters to stay in their lane. I’m sure when people tune in to watch the forecast it’s because they want to know what the weather’s going to be like and not get an earful about climate change. Also the practicalities could get a bit silly. Does climate change get a mention every time the weather does something outside the envelope of averages, which is practically all the time.
  10. ‘The quotes were £5,000 or more’: electric vehicle owners face soaring insurance costs | Car insurance | The Guardian WWW.THEGUARDIAN.COM Drivers who ditched petrol and diesel to help save the planet face huge price rises in premiums Given that many end up on the scrap heap after minor collisions this isn’t surprising.
  11. Pre 1979 is no longer a mystery thanks to Nimbus satellite data which showes huge variations through the 60s so large fluctuations like we’re seeing currently don’t appear to be that uncommon. excerpt from the linked article; “We were shocked by what we discovered in these images,” says Gallaher. “We thought, OK, all reports from the 1960s were that it was colder, so we expected to see a lot more sea ice. In fact, 1964 was the largest sea ice extent until 2014. Then in 1966 we saw the lowest ice extent that was ever seen. This was totally unexpected. There’s a lot more variability in sea ice extent than we ever could have imagined.” Meier agrees. “Even in the passive microwave record for the Antarctic you see these seesaws where the ice concentrations go up and down, so extreme high or extreme low are not that unusual,” he says. “What the Nimbus data tell us is that there’s variability in the Antarctic sea ice that’s larger than any we had seen from the passive microwave data. Nimbus helps put this in a longer term context and extends the record.” New Data From Old Satellites: A Nimbus Success Story | Earthdata WWW.EARTHDATA.NASA.GOV The Earth Observing System Data and Information System is a key core capability in NASA’s Earth Science Data Systems Program. It provides end-to-end capabilities...
  12. Why wait 200yrs? Why not protect the earth from perishing and get rid of the 7.8billion by 2050 and at the same time ensure we reach net zero. We just have to figure out how to get rid of the brainless throw aways. Any ideas?
  13. Are these abnormally high sea surface temperatures occurring quite widespread or in locations that have had dominant high pressure systems preventing deep layer mixing and overturning along with less cloud cover. Given that patterns are quite stuck currently, might this be a factor?
  14. Also when they start incurring carbon taxes like the rest of us Parliamentary question | Exemptions from the EU Emission Trading Scheme for private jets and yachts | E-003298/2022 | European Parliament WWW.EUROPARL.EUROPA.EU Question for written answer E-003298/2022 to the Commission Rule 138 Markus Buchheit (ID)
  15. I’m struggling to see the rationale for concern regarding the AMOC. It’s an old chestnut that’s been rattled on about for years with only 20yrs of monitoring to support any theories of collapse. The previous collapse is thought to have been caused by a sudden release of thousands of cubic miles of freshwater coming off a glacial lake on the North American/Canadian ice sheet. Thankfully there are no ice sheets there today and the only sheet capable of discharging that much water is Greenland which at the current melt rate will take about 17,000yrs to disappear.
  16. Electric car suspected cause of Dutch cargo ship fire WWW.RTE.IE An electric car is suspected to be the cause of a fire on a cargo ship off the Netherlands in which one crew member died, amid fears the blaze could burn for days and... What will it be like with ferry loads of EVs chugging over and back across the channel? Disaster waiting to happen I suspect.
  17. I find it interesting the idea that skeptics are being regarded as distrusting, anti establishment, anti science who only consume material supporting their preferred view. To me that seems as though there’s preconceptions towards skeptics that will hinder any debate. Also we must question what is the debate about? To my knowledge there is no debate about the effects of co2 or climate change. That is settled science. The debate is more about the future climate, the extent of co2 forcing, to which the science is very unsettled and all theoretical. Some scientists believe increasing co2 is a net benefit where as others believe we’re headed towards disaster. Either way, all theoretical and debatable. All projections for the future are no more than just predictions. Some of which are comparable to Nostradamus making his way into a super computer.The peer review process doesn’t make a prediction or projection infallible either. This is not a subject that’s as simple as black and white, it’s a broad and nuanced field with in fathomable complexity.
  18. I believe there are still plenty of skeptics out there and possibly here too but it’s gotten to the point where it’s exceedingly difficult to have a level headed debate. There’s just so many arguments and counter arguments, along with the propensity of some to dismiss and shout people down. Proper old fashioned, mutually respectful debates are near impossible to find nowadays. Steve Koonin vs Andrew Dessler is probably the only real climate debate I’ve heard in years. Climate change or not, what I do believe worthy of serious discussion is government response, ie Net Zero, ESG, etc. These are policies that affect all of us in our day to day lives as opposed to the may or may not happenings of the future.
  19. Hahahah indeed Pete but down here in the real world we must be pragmatic and consider the limitations of reality.
  20. The hairy lad continues lecturing everyone with ludicrous claims of a burning planet whilst looking out the window at two ICE vehicles in his drive. All the bluster one can muster doesn’t change facts. There are not enough rare Earth metals to electrify transport on a global scale, along with all the battery storage required to store energy for when the unreliables aren’t working. Even if the resources were there, we are nowhere near the mining capacity to keep up with demand. Keeping in mind we also need lots of copper to upgrade our grid and build thousands upon thousands of those lovely white bird choppers and thousands of acres of solar panels and the millions of heat pumps. There are dozens of other problems, many of which have been very well outlined in this thread. Let’s not forget the cost. The almighty Government subsidies are not going to put an EV in everyone’s driveway and build the necessary infrastructure. Western economies are headed for broke as industry moves to China where energy is affordable and far from clean. As for all the poor souls in third world countries who are apparently facing a burning future? Today they are facing disease, poverty, death and starvation. Climate colonialism is what’s keeping them that way. We’ve all had the chance to use fossil fuels to develop and prosper whilst denying third world countries the support and finances to do the same. We can strangle our economies and standard of living in persuit of net zero whilst China and India continue on developing, business as usual, rendering our efforts moot. But hey, at least we can finger wag and virtue signal.
  21. Electric vehicles are way too expensive for the vast majority of working and middle class folk. They’re just another way to use taxpayer funds to subsidise toys for the wealthy. EVs are a practical option for a few but they’ll never replace ice vehicles for the masses. When out and about, take note of streets in towns, cities and suburbs, lined with parked cars. Now imagine all these cars are electric and suddenly all these streets must be lined with charges. Imagine the infrastructure needed to lay heavy load copper cables. Imagine the drain on the already fragile grid. At which point we’re supposed to be primarily wind and solar. Currently the Uk is producing 78% of its energy demand of which 20% is from renewables, 40% fossil fuel so anyone charging their EV right now is putting over 40% “dirty” energy in their car. Also let’s not forget the forced child labour in the cobalt mines in the Congo. Battery Push By Tesla And Other EV Makers Raises Child Labor Concerns WWW.FORBES.COM A new study finds that auto, battery and electronics firms are indirectly using cobalt sourced from unsafe artisanal mines in Congo that rely heavily on children doing...
  22. I’m by no means qualified to give a definitive answer but my guess is that it’s unlikely to have an effect going forward as the higher than average temperatures in September were simply caused by weather and pressure patterns. The overall state of the ice sheet remains largely the same.
  23. Copernicus stated that temperatures had reached 8C above average in places. I believe this was due to a number of strong lows which drew up relatively warm air over Greenland. Interestingly this resulted in a record SMB gain of 10GT on Sep 24th. (not reported by Copernicus or media)
  24. Not a bad year. I’m curious to see how things fare over the coming months given the third consecutive La Niña and perhaps the Honga Tonga eruption appear to be leading a slight cool down globally.
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