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Says snow this morning for Sheffield but cannot see it happening. Peak district has always been a snow stopper from westerly snow

Must admit I'm quite despondent this morning. NW just don't deliver for me snow wise usually so not expecting anything at all. Pretty annoying as I was quite confident that low to the NE would shift a bit to give us a N/NE and thus plenty of activity from north sea I'm getting to the age now where I want it to snow otherwise I'd rather get to the spring warmth

Are people just forgetting this isn't a high just sitting over us? That is a very juicy low in the NE pulling from an extremely cold pool over a warm sea...it's almost impossible not to have anything generated from that. Then you have the addition of what the Atlantic sends our way too The precipitation charts are useless until a lot closer, like within days of occurring very good again this morning, everything heading the right way so far with regards to have a period of colder weather

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That main thread annoys me to hell....my ignore list is growing and growing. Thank you @Scott Inghamfor asking how to do it!

The white patch right bang of the middle of the UK with no snow is where I live so bound to be true In all seriousness I'm not going to worry about the finer details like precipitation yet. It's clear though things are going back on track with the ECM steadily improving. Very positive day to be honest. Still think there will be twist and turns and will be compromises at some point, but at least the date in question is still the date things are revolving around Get the cold in, and in these sort of setups the snow will definitely follow. These next few days model watching are going to be fascinating and tantalising

No, but just take FI with a huge pinch of salt though, with FI being T96+ when cold is suggested. I know sometimes it's hard keeping that excitement in with some of the charts produced, we've all been there. Things have gone Pete tongue before at T48 despite cross model agreement though There was a lot of over excitement yesterday at things too far in advance, some of the comparisons to past years was way OTT. Cross model agreement means sod all, get the first incursion of cold in first, which we look to start doing next week, then see what comes next Not good output so far for a decent cold snowy spell but things can easily swing the other way, models really struggle with these situations. There are still the other background signals the more knowledgeable posters have been saying too which I'm sure won't have suddenly changed As ever in model watching, more runs needed

To be honest, I'm not expecting anything substantial from this spell (from my location view). Easterlies are always classed as a holy grail yet they rarely come good for us in Yorkshire. NE / N is where it's at for us usually Sure it'll be cold, easterlies do deliver that for us, but except a few showers it'll be relatively dry. No doubt I'll be proved wrong though Does look like it's going to be bitter. Not good for me currently suffering from man flu

Unfortunately it was a bit too late to go to anywhere more scenic

Ended up having a nice walk yesterday evening to try take it in. The main roads was pretty clear and it was clear the snow was melting to some degree, this was at around 6pm - 8pm. Been out this morning and thankfully the snow is still here and there was a nice crunch to it this morning. I'll try post some pictures later. Unfortunately I couldn't get that many scenic ones because it was a bit too late / dark last night Lovely to see snow again

You're not far from me (Chapeltown) but ours is only showing light snow for the rest of the afternoon Must admit, I'm a bit surprised we don't have more depths here. Don't get me wrong, this isn't a moan, I'm delighted that I've got some and I'll be going out in it after work. However, it's been snowing constantly since about 7:30am and it was already settling come 8am so I thought we'd have more of a build up. We're probably at 1-2 inch but footprints left on my road from early this morning are still clearly visible. Just curious as to why that may be

There is no warnings on the site? Although, they usually are late with them However, current forecasted temperatures are around 6c for Monday so still not sure it's true? Maybe it's for a lot further North than us?

Covered here, didn't take long at all to do so. Just got a neighbour in a TT trying to drive up my road, no chance! Probably say it's moderate snow about 1cm deep

I'm still in bed but apparently it's just turned to snow. North Sheffield at 125m asl

Doesn't the latest ECM show no snow event for Sheffield on Thursday though?

Does look like Sheffield (north) will *just* miss out on tonight's action. Very very close

Sorry but that's not a mild outlier with it having support from other ensembles Not too concerning yet though. Until this pattern starts setting itself there will be many variations being thrown up

My lack of knowledge, but albeit cold, wouldn't that just provide dry conditions for us with the low being so far south and us just being affected by the high? Maybe just a few rogue showers I know you can't predict any sort of precipitation until < 24 hours

Cheers for replying and forecasting. When you say how severe, I assume you're talking from a temperature point of view? I assume then that means any significant snowfall we are probably looking at the Greenland high producing us via nothernlies from the Arctic rather than anything from the initial leading up to / setting up of the Greenland high? I've always been skeptical of SSW events because they never seem to do what people think. However, the ensembles are looking extremely consistent across the board, like ridiculously so and at a long period too, something I've not seen since I joined here 16 years ago. There just feels like there is something different this time although I'm not yet on the severe cold spell ramping team Also, I saw your comment about Thames freezing over (which may or may not have been tongue in cheek) but wouldn't the generally higher sea temperatures put a stop to that anyway?

Steady on with the ramping I've seen you say you're more of a long ranger, so how do you see this next month panning out for the Yorkshire region? Are we looking north, north east or east? I don't think we'll get anything in the next few days so it'd be good to know what we should be looking out for and when (with regards to snow) Obviously not expecting it to be nailed on, just a prediction, so no pressure. You can claim the credit if right though

Agree with this. Frustrating seeing other places potential get snow. I used to think Sheffield was great for snow but we are so centralised it's hard to get some with the Pennines blocking any westward approach and easterlies usually not strong enough I do tend to hate it when people say got to look at the bigger picture and like 10+ days because whenever that's said it never materialises. Same with supposed warming events which rarely produce anything. I do feel this is a better shot though, not seen consistently cold ensembles for a long time. Keeping my glass half full. It would sum up my winter / year if we don't get anything though and with SWFC getting relegated too

Firstly, just want to apologise for my moaning yesterday, definitely noticed I've been in a rubbish mood this week so think I was just a bit more irritable than normal. Not sure why, I usually love this time of year. Maybe it's just the year has finally taken its toll Anyway, feeling very seasonal outside this year - feels freezing! Nearly crashed yesterday on some unexpected black ice. Just need a bit of frost now to reinforce it (preferably snow). Sure beats the rubbish Xmas weather we usually get Not looking promising for us in the E / NE next week. Feels like we usually miss out nowadays. Got to get the cold in first though then hopefully more promising things will follow Merry Xmas / happy holidays all

I honestly wouldn't be worried about 5th Jan onwards at the minute with and even the subtlest of changes before that will effect it. FI will always be wild even if locked in to a severe winter. Models don't handle cold all that well and if we get in to a position where we are in a cold period the models *usually* are too progressive. For me the period before hand is really encouraging based on those London ones. Great clustering together of the ensembles (850s). Obviously the uncertainty is elsewhere i.e. Aberdeen. However, even that is encouraging in that even though at even T72 we see quite big differences of near enough 8~ around the 27th-29th they still end with a relatively cold outcome: Get that period up to the New Year locked in first then hopefully we shall get further positive steps towards something more substantial widespread with the preceding coldness helping any snow potential

and that is a fair point and I don't mind people discussing all those charts outputted (as unlikely as even the FI stuff is to happen). It's the fact they are claiming it is going to happen and shoving it in the "experts" (at lack of the thinking of a better word, there are very many amateur enthusiasts who I'd see as experts too) faces i.e. Meto; just because they don't show charts they are hoping for. Basically smearing someones credibility and newer members getting confused. Out of curiosity, is that where my history only goes up to 2018? If not, I'm curious where you've seen the rest of my posting history seems I've been a member since 2004. Even still, the lack of winter for the past half a decade is going to be a recipe for moaning posts, especially when things are ramped up and fail to deliver anything but a few showers with no accumulations (which I imagine is the post you're referring to). I remember back in the day having weather presenters showing sweeping snow symbols throughout the country - the true widespread disruptive snow. Nowadays, just getting a snow flurry seems to be like trying to find a needle in a haystack. Like many on here, the winter synoptics and the hunt for snow are the fascinating things that draw us in hence my only venturing on during the winter seasons. Not that I should really be having to explain my reasons for being on here Anyway, the block button is useful and I should have used it sooner rather than getting wound up. I just didn't know who the extreme rampers are and I try to only do it as a last resort because I do like to see everyone's opinions on the near term charts and how they may evolve

I know that isn't a reply to my post but it could be applied, so how can you post something to disprove someone when things haven't happened? It's just known that things so so far out don't verify, so going crazy about them stating the other experts are already wrong is misleading to other newer members who don't know that In upcoming cold spells the general rule of thumbs is T72-T120 take with a huge dose of skepticism, T120+ have a laugh then chuck away. Unfortunately cold spells in the UK are notoriously hard to model hence why we've had one at T48 scrapped despite model unity quite a few years ago. Although, to be that close to then be scuppered is a very rare thing indeed Anyway, started sleeting ever so slightly here. Does feel very cold though which is a nice seasonal change. I do find the netweather forecast interesting though....apparently I might be due some torrential fog next week