Well as my local area as already seen quite a few frosts (more then last year already) I am very excited to see what winter as in store,! no snow yet but as we are only in the 3rd week of December that's nothing to worry about as there's still 3 FULL MONTHS left yet where we can easy see snow. So any posts writing off winter when it as only just started is just silly and only intended to wind people up imo! Well it certainly ain't working with me and I know as well as many others do nature will do what it will do but my personal feeling is we will get a very cold blocked snowey January and February.