John Mason

Hi all. Anyone affected in Jersey is encouraged to contact TORRO: The Tornado and Storm Research Organisation (TORRO) WWW.TORRO.ORG.UK TORRO is a privately-supported research body specialising in severe convective weather in Britain and Ireland Thanks! John

That's one hell of a Gish Gallop (albeit bullet-pointed), SC! Cheers - John

Hi Prof,There sure is! At Skeptical Science we soon spot those out simply to rubbish science - quite a few are "known operatives" in any case. Questions on the other hand are always welcome - provided they are posted in the right thread where they are on-topic, they will usually be answered. Sure the climate models are far from perfect. They improve as time goes by, but don't confuse excuses with reasons - if they underperform either way (and for example they grossly underestimated Arctic sea-ice loss) we need to and do try and work out the reasons for that, rather than saying the dog ate the homework. Is science ever settled? I don't think so, at least in terms of details. Certain principles have withstood the test of time in all of the scientific disciplines, but there are always uncertainties to clear up, and climatology is no exception to this. It requires scepticism to identify and attempt to address uncertainties - without it we would still be wondering how to make wheels! Cheers - John

John Mason, on 23 January 2012 - 13:21 , said: Hi all, Just dropping by to say hello to Vill and to suggest that he might enjoy reading the following recent guest-post on SkS, by Kate from Climatesight: http://www.skeptical...odels-work.html Cheers - John Vill said: "thanks John, I guess now that you have tracked me down we can say that I have been Dev'd again right!" My advice is to follow the link I provided, because it would help you to understand climate models, which you clearly do not, having confused them with economic models, which are far more fail-prone because, despite its myriad complexities, the climate is rather more straightforward than a bunch of panicking financiers! I've known you are on here for ages, but thought I might be able to offer some guidance that would help you see the difference in computer models as developed for completely different situations - climatology vs. economics. Hence posting the link to where I mostly hang out these days, with those scurrilous Antipodean pro-science types! I rather like them because the arena is - mostly - science. Cheers - John

Hi all, Just dropping by to say hello to Vill and to suggest that he might enjoy reading the following recent guest-post on SkS, by Kate from Climatesight: http://www.skeptical...odels-work.html Cheers - John

This is looking more and more interesting. I've asked the TORRO membership from E England to respond, and hopefully we might get a site investigator on the trail. If we do I'll point them in your direction Matty if you don't mind! Cheers - John

Yes - please do record it into the TORRO database. Some cracking photos there and I wonder if you could go to the area where it may have been on the ground and check for any damage? Looking forward to hearing more! Cheers - John