Model Output Discussion - Happy New Year! in Weather Discussion - Winter Posted January 12 6 minutes ago, Nick F said: Trough digging down across NE/central Europe and Atlantic ridge building north by day 10 got support from 00z GEFS mean though And reasonable support from members in the stamps, though variations between NWly and Nly. Indeed. There is some level of support. Toppler looks like the form horse at the moment but there is time for this one to upgrade somewhat. Getting to that stage in the next day or two when we we need to see gfs and ecm ops consolidate on that amplification at day 9.