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Has anyone any idea when this dull Atlantic weather will end?! I've been looking and I can't see it happening in the next few weeks!

Unfortunately it's a green one for everyone! But Merry Christmas all the same and I hope you all have a brilliant day!

Well according to Netweather itself, for my location snow is forecast Thursday and Friday, and the maximum temperature for the coming Monday is -3c, and the minimum is -11c! Will be interesting to see what comes of this...

How's this? My Grandma was moving house so I chose her one at 330m 'because it had nice views', and indeed it does, but what I didn't tell her was that my idea of nice views are 5 foot snow drifts! And that's exactly what we got last December! And on most of those nights I was out sledging through a coniferous forrest which looked like Narnia, secretly having the time of my life!

Thanks for all your replies The snowline here yesterday was 160m, and it was literally like someone had drawn it on it was that sharp! I live at around 330m so we did rather well most of last week! Theres a hill I can see from my back garden which tops out at 320m, and earlier in the week there was about an inch at the top and about 30m below was completely green!

I was looking for a previous one but couldn't find one so started one! The BBC class high ground as over 150m which I think is usually the point where sleet turns to snow! You can see a hill which tops out at 180m which is always white when there's just sleet in Brighouse

It's always fascinated me seeing a white, snow covered field, and then the field a few metres below completely green! I know it varies with conditions, but what would you say the approx snow line is? I've done a bit of research for my area: When there's wet snow in Brighouse (90m asl) I've found that it starts to settle just up the road at about 150m asl, and when there's sleet in Brighouse, snow settles at about 240m asl

Wet snow on and off all day - max temp 3C. Current temp 1C and the clouds are rolling in so hoping for some more snow which is forecast for most of tonight and tomorrow!

Extremely strong winds and very heavy sleet with some hail mixed in! Current temperature: 4.5C

Reading 0.5°C here at the moment

And so I did! We had a really heavy sleet shower with a temperature of 2°C at 7:30 this morning!

Had a sleet shower here this morning, temperature read just 2°C in the car!

That would mean I'd see a fair bit, but the lowest daily max this week is 7°C, to be honest I can't see there been any snow below 600-700m outside of Scotland

http://www.winterhighland.info/cams/glencoe/ There's been a fresh dusting over the highlands last night, with snow forecast for all today and tomorrow!

Yep that's data I collected myself And the last few days of November weren't that bad here, I think we had a few inches of uneven drifted snow, but the real stuff came on the 1st of December! Around 10 inches of snow fell in 9 hours and at one point 3 inches fell within an hour! And yep, the snow started melting on Boxing day but it still stuck around for another week or so. That was it for snow then until the 19th of February! Very bland after Christmas!

Like I said, it contradicts itself a bit but it's still early stages! And I preferred 2009/2010 as well even though last year was much more severe! 2009/2010: Days of lying snow = 37 Lowest maximum = -3°C Lowest minimum = -12°C Deepest snow = 1' (4' drifts) 2010/2011: Days of lying snow = 34 (22 consecutive) Lowest maximum = -8°C! Lowest minimum = -15°C Deepest snow = 15" (6' drifts!) Note: The temperature never rose above freezing point between 26th November and 9th December, that's 2 weeks! I think 2009/2010 was more charming because it started snowing a week prior to Christmas, adding to the festivity, and it carried on snowing for a few weeks after, which dragged out that Christmassy feel! 2010/2011 ran out of steam before Christmas!

In these past few years I've noticed a complete shift in the seasons, with all 4 seasons coming 2-3 months earlier than in previous years. The only exception being the warm spell we had a few weeks ago. My personal opinion is that it's caused by a shift in pressure patterns due to low solar activity but I could be wrong!

Well if the northern blocking occurs then fantastic! But if their predicted temperatures were to occur it would be a bit dreary! I think the forecast is a bit contradictory because the the maps show temperatures around or just below average for November and December yet the description forecasts northern blocking in both months, and we know that would cause temperatures well below average for the month overall as we've seen in previous years. Like you say, it's still early days and things should start to become clear as we move closer

Disappointing! An average if not mild winter overall At least there's still time for change!

Netweather themselves are forecasting a cooldown next week! http://www.netweather.tv/index.cgi?action=news;storyid=836;sess= Global SST anomalies are looking much, much cooler than they did last year as well.

I think it's just starting to settle!

Here's one from a BBC article, it's not as detailed, nor is it as clear as the other one but it should do for now! The lag time is only really visible in more previous years in this one. There's obviously some huge anomalies in there, but keep in mind that low solar activity mainly effects winter temperatures due to the positioning of the jet stream.

Yep you're right, I don't know who to trust either so I'm not really bothered what any sources say! As for the 2-3 year lag time, my evidence comes from comparisons between CET and SS numbers which I think the comparisons were dated back to the 18th century. Obviously CET only covers a relatively small area but it still gives us a good idea of how it effects our neck of the woods! I'll try find it so bear with me!

Bare in mind that low solar activity usually has a 2-3 year lag effect. No matter how high solar activity picks up in the next few months, I definitely wouldn't rule out the possibility of a cold winter caused by the effects of low solar activity, and I wouldn't be surprised if we got another cold winter next year!

That webcam's at Pajala in Sweden. That's definitely snow! I just think it's too wet to settle at this stage, it's forecast 1°C and snow tonight, but 4°C and rain tomorrow.