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The high temperatures are really elevating those pollen levels ,hayfever has never been so bad.Nothing works to to any great extent to relieve my symptoms..tried the lot ,over the counter and perscription.,Any suggestions?

Now thats what I call a snowfall! http://www.ecorazzi.com/2011/03/24/what-does-crazy-deep-snow-look-like/

Anyone snowed in yet?

http://forum.netweather.tv/topic/64081-forecasting-streamers/

http://uk.weather.co...London-UKXX0085 temperature slowly rising.

this will be the roads of uk tomorrow

I think thats a fair analysis.Like you state MB there were some accurate comparisons that no sceptic can deny.With regards to your future forecasts, have you seen any other extreme weather for the UK this winter?

In subsequent interviews, Zangari expressed concern that CCAR began falsifying their satellite data following the publication of his paper. Gee, I wonder why they would falsify data? He added that unless the Loop Current reorganized itself, England would start experiencing Siberian-style winters and possibly another Ice Age. Another effect of the breakdown of Thermohaline Circulation, according to Zangari, was a disruption in the atmospheric Jet Stream in summer 2010, causing unheard of high temperatures in Moscow (104F) and drought, and flooding in Central Europe, with high temperatures in much of Asia and massive flooding in China, Pakistan, and elsewhere in Asia. I don’t pretend to understand the advanced calculus Zangari employed to formulate his findings. However now that his predictions have come to pass, I think he needs to be taken seriously.

These are not my findings they are those of Professor Zangari and his team of scientists,which have given rise to extensive discussion in the scientific community The accurate figure of the gulf oil spill is a matter of conjecture,but for the period of the leak millions upon millions of gallons of crude oil was released from that fracture. Based on the satellite traces that have been carried out and the extensive testing on water samples along the coastal regions and out in the deep sea , the evidence indicates a substantial contamination . Zangari is a Theoretical Physicist at the Ascati Institute in Italy. He has worked for years with a collaborative network of scientists monitoring the Gulf of Mexico Loop Current and its contribution to the Thermohaline Current System that makes the Gulf Stream that becomes the North Atlantic Drift Current.In June Zangari published a paper based on CCAR Colorado, NOAA and US Naval satellite data revealing the Ocean Conveyor Belt had stopped a month earlier, breaking into small eddies 250 miles from the Outer Banks of North Carolina. Zangari blamed this on the millions of gallons of Corexit BP dumped into the Gulf. This combined with oil to form a sludge that sunk to the ocean floor that gradually spread via ocean currents along the US Atlantic coast. “As displayed by both by the sea surface maps and the sea surface height maps, the Loop Current broke down for the first time around May 18th and generated a clock wise eddy, which is still active. As of today the situation has deteriorated up to the point in which the eddy has detached itself completely from the main stream therefore destroying completely the Loop Current. ..†“It is reasonable to foresee the threat that the breaking of [such] a crucial warm stream as the Loop Current may generate a chain reaction of unpredictable critical phenomena and instabilities due to strong non-linearities which may have serious consequences on the dynamics of the Gulf Stream thermoregulation activity of the Global Climate.†—Dr. Gianluigi Zangari,

From the legal point of view BP will be fined based on the amount of oil that leaks. The official answer to how big the leak is keeps getting put off reports CBS News investigative correspondent Sharyl Attkisson. For the first time, BP gave high resolution video to scientists trying to figure it out, but it's still holding back other material. "Our estimate should be independent of BP," says Purdue University professor Steve Wereley. "We should take them out of the process." Senators fired off a letter telling BP it "must not hinder" or "undermine(d)" a "truly independent" estimate. Meantime, there's mistrust over another issue: oil lingering unseen beneath the surface. It's marine scientists from gulf state universities - not the government or BP - who have been flagging giant undersea plumes for weeks. University of Georgia researchers found one three miles wide. The University of South Florida found an even bigger one. But BP, responsible for managing the fall-out, appears to be in a perpetual state of denial. They insist all the oil is on top. "The oil is on the surface," said BP CEO Tony Hayward on May 30. BP COO Doug Suttles echoed that sentiment to CBS News Early Show anchor Harry Smith Wednesday. Asked directly by Smith if he believed the underwater plumes existed, Suttles said, "Harry, no one has found any large concentrations of oil beneath the surface." Smith responded, "So scientists are making it up?" "All we can know for certain is what we measured," said Suttles. Environmentalist Philippe Cousteau says, "I think it's irresponsible for them to be denying that."

The latest satellite data establishes that the North Atlantic Current (also called the North Atlantic Drift) no longer exists and along with it the Norway Current. These two warm water currents are actually part of the same system that has several names depending on where in the Atlantic Ocean it is. The entire system is a key part of the planet’s heat regulatory system; it is what keeps Ireland and the United Kingdom mostly ice free and the Scandinavia countries from being too cold; it is what keeps the entire world from another Ice Age. This Thermohaline Circulation System is now dead in places and dying in others. This ‘river’ of warm water that moves through the Atlantic Ocean is called, in various places, the South Atlantic Current, the North Brazil Current, the Caribbean Current, the Yucatan Current, the Loop Current, the Florida Current, the Gulf Stream, the North Atlantic Current (or North Atlantic Drift) and the Norway Current. The thermohaline circulation is sometimes called the ocean conveyor belt, the great ocean conveyor, or the global conveyor belt. It is a university level physics experiment to use a tub of cool water and inject a colored stream of warm water into it. You can see the boundary layers of the warm water stream. If you add oil to the tub it breaks down the boundary layers of the warm water stream and effectively destroys the current vorticity . This is what is happening in the Gulf of Mexico and in the Atlantic Ocean. The entire ‘river of warm water’ that flows from the Caribbean to the edges of Western Europe is dying due to the Corexit that the Obama Administration allowed BP to use to hide the scale of the BP Deepwater Horizon Oil Disaster. The approximately two million gallons of Corexit, plus several million gallons of other dispersants, have caused the over two hundred million gallons of crude oil, that has gushed for months from the BP wellhead and nearby sites, to mostly sink to the bottom of the ocean. This has helped to effectively hide much of the oil, with the hopes that BP can seriously reduce the mandated federal fines from the oil disaster. However, there is no current way to effectively ‘clean up’ the bottom of the Gulf of Mexico, which is about half covered in crude oil. Additionally, the oil has flowed up the East Coast of America and into the North Atlantic Ocean, and there is no way to effectively clean up this ‘sea bottom oil’. It is likely, based on numerous reports, that the oil is still flowing in massive amounts from multiple places on the seabed floor. This effectively means, that even if we had the technology in place to somehow clean up the free flowing thick crude oil deep in the ocean, it would likely not be enough to reverse the damage to the Thermohaline Circulation System in the Atlantic Ocean. Dr. Deagle: The evidence has come in from ROV video and other experts such as Matt Simmons, BK Lim, and Lindsay Williams and my own anonymous whistleblowers from inside the closed circle of Cameron Ironworks, Tranocean Marine , Oceaneering International. My source provided very solid info re the ROV analysis by Oceaneering engineers that the BOP Blow Out Preventer was ‘modified’ and never had hydraulics to close the BOP. BP knew that the field had dangerous high levels of methane, hydrogen sulphide, and pressures exceeded any valve technology as the current state of the art. The seeps continue along a fractured fault line from the Macondo well site where evidence presented by BK Lim that the only well of three that reached the abiotic batholith ocean of oil and gas was never capped or stopped and has continued to leak along the ocean floor and inject oil and gas and tar into the rock strata. Dr Gianluigi Zangari PhD from the Frascati Institute is a Theoretical Physicist, who has worked for years with a collaborative network of scientists monitoring the Gulf of Mexico Loop Current and its contribution to the Thermohaline Current System that makes the Gulf Stream that becomes the North Atlantic Drift Current and subcurrents. After receiving a contact from a naval scientist via a regular guest on the NutriMedical Report national radio show, on Genesis Network, John Moore sent Dr. Deagle the info on Dr Zangari’s work. Dr. Deagle contacted him by SKYPE and and within minutes was conversing by SKYPE to Italy with Dr Zangari re his serious analysis with data from six satellites of the May to June 12th 2010 dissolution of the Loop Current. Over the next few weeks to July 28th, with numerous interviews on The NutriMedical Report and LiveStream.com/TheNutriMedicalReportShow updates, final proof was provided that the Gulf Stream had been stopped cold at the 47th longitudinal parallel with a 10 degree Celsius ocean temperature drop, and loss of velocity and energy, so that the Gulf Stream was only able to be measured by satellite to less than one-third the way across the Atlantic ocean. As Dr Zangari stated, this is not the butterfly effect but the ‘elephant effect’, and with the amount of oil released, the natural system linked as the pacemaker to world climate for millions of years, this was now gone, replaced by an artificial system with a Gulf of Mexico by late July seven degrees Celsius above normals, and totally disconnected Loop Current from the Florida current that becomes the Gulf Stream. In his reported on June 12th 2010 in a journal article, the CCAR Colorado data agreed with the NOAA and US Naval Satellites data. This live satellite data map later altered on the CCAR servers, and he emailed that this was “to falsify†and he could not explain this fact logically. He returned to NOAA and US Naval data on the same and later dates and stated by early August that the CCAR data was no longer reliable and his conclusions was not changed in quality or quantity of the serious consequences. His conclusion that ‘glaciation’ at an unknown pace was inevitable from this disaster. Almost a month ago, we broke the story that the Loop Current in the Gulf of Mexico had effectively died. We quoted Dr. Gianluizi Zangari, who first discovered the damage to the Thermohaline Circulation System: “As displayed by both by the sea surface maps and the sea surface height maps, the Loop Current broke down for the first time around May 18th and generated a clock wise eddy, which is still active. As of today the situation has deteriorated up to the point in which the eddy has detached itself completely from the main stream therefore destroying completely the Loop Current. ..†“It is reasonable to foresee the threat that the breaking of [such] a crucial warm stream as the Loop Current may generate a chain reaction of unpredictable critical phenomena and instabilities due to strong non-linearities which may have serious consequences on the dynamics of the Gulf Stream thermoregulation activity of the Global Climate.†- Dr. Gianluigi Zangari The massive amount of crude oil, ever expanding in volume and covering such an enormous area, has seriously affected the entire thermoregulation system of the planet, by breaking up the boundary layers of the warm water flow. The Loop Current in the Gulf of Mexico ceased to exist a month ago, the latest satellite data clearly shows that the North Atlantic Current is now GONE and the Gulf Stream begins to break apart approximately 250 miles from the Outer Banks of North Carolina. The Thermohaline Circulatory System, where the warm water current flows through a much cooler, much larger, ocean, effects the upper atmosphere above the current as much as seven miles high. The lack of this normal effect in the eastern North Atlantic has disrupted the normal flow of the atmospheric Jet Stream this summer, causing unheard of high temperatures in Moscow (104F) and drought, and flooding in Central Europe, with high temperatures in much of Asia and massive flooding in China, Pakistan, and elsewhere in Asia. A Normal Gulf Stream taken from 5 September2004. Figure 1. Gulf Stream velocities one week ago: Sunday 22 August 2010 Figure 2. Gulf Stream velocities two weeks ago: Sunday 15 August 2010 Figure 3. Gulf Stream velocities three weeks ago: Sunday 8 August 2010 Figure 4. Gulf Stream velocities four weeks ago: Sunday 1 August 2010 Older data charts: Figure 1. Gulf Stream velocities one week ago: Wednesday 18 August 2010 Figure 2. Gulf Stream velocities two weeks ago: Wednesday 11 August 2010 Figure 3. Gulf Stream velocities three weeks ago: Wednesday 4 August 2010 Figure 4. Gulf Stream velocities four weeks ago: Wednesday 28 July 2010 The most current data continues to show a dying of the entire Thermohaline Circulation System in the Atlantic Ocean. This is indicative of the fact that the dispersants have caused the oil to remain in place below the surface, and according to most reports remain in almost full amounts (up to 80%) long after the BP Oil Disaster began. Since there is no current way to remove this massive amount of free flowing oil below the sea at depths up to one mile deep, it is apt to continue to effect any natural recovery of the Thermohaline Circulation System. So what does this mean? Violent mixing of the seasons, crop failures, and increased drought and floods in diverse places is now daily news since the April 20th 2010 BP Oil Volcano. They have killed the pacemaker of world climate in the worlds of Dr Zangari PhD. Dr Mike Coffman PhD geologist resource climatologist, and Dr Tim Ball PhD climatologist have confirmed that if this data is correct, that an ice age and massive climate shift with famine is now imminent. We are now seeing Russia stop all delivery of wheat crops on prior contracts, and most sources of staple food crops moving worldwide in a crisis of famine. The Gulf Stream and related currents are effectively DEAD. This should enrage the public and bring forth scientists to challenge and support the data and analysis, for the consequences to the civilization of mankind and ecological collapse have global consequence producing famine, death and massive population migration away from zones of advancing ice age and regions unfit for human habitation. Let us get the facts and call the corporate and government to task on these issues now or face worldwide catechisms of biblical proportions. We shall continue to report with new scientific experts on this most important disaster. The ‘process’ of entering a new Ice Age could begin coming upon us in full force (rather like in the movie “The Day After Tomorrowâ€) at any time, or it could take three to five year to fully play out with early glaciation beginning in North America and Europe and Asia this winter (both models have existed in the beginnings of different Ice Ages in Earth’s past). Current sea surface temperature satellite data show pre-Ice Age cooling continuing – image ~ A new Ice Age, could kill 2/3 of the human race in the first year in a rapid onset; a slower onset would likely kill close to this number but simply take a handful of years.! Thank you BP; thank you President Obama, the lies and the dispersants were just great. Now if you could just direct all that hot air to the right places maybe we can avoid a icy hell in our near future. UPDATE 2 September 2010: Europe is going into an early winter ~ link ~ with snowfall in the Alps coming a month early ~ link ~ half a meter of snow in late August in Norway ~ link ~ early snow in Russia ~ link ~ Additionally, sea ice in the Antarctic is at near record levels ~ link ~ and coldest August in South Australia in 35 years ~ link ~ This is indicative of a major climatic change to the entire planet and is to be expected from the dying Thermohaline Circulation System in the Atlantic Ocean

Doing a bit more research, the Katla caldera is apparently approximately 10*14 kms, presumably some sort of ovoid, and the ice sheet is about 700 metres thick. Drawing a pretty loose bow around this, this could easily represent 50-80 cu. kms of ice. Eyjafjallajökull has now developed a new magma fissure, and if I was a gambling type I would say that the chances of Katla joining in were increasing. The key question seems to be: would 50 cubic kms of fresh water dumped into the surface layer of the North Atlantic around Iceland very quickly be enough to reduce its density sufficiently to force the North Atlantic Drift to "dive" to abyssal depths much earlier than normal? If I was a European meteorologist, this is something I would be investigating with considerable interest.

In early 2010 U.S. scientists published new findings that showed the current was prone to short term variability but that there was no long term decline. Though the mechanisms dictating the short term changes are still poorly understood, changes in the current are believed to be part of a natural cycle,so there may be some logic in your reasoning. The results are not entirely conclusive however. The scientists believe that their system is good enough to detect long term changes in flow of around 20%; however, the volumes of water involved are massive – up to 35 million tonnes of water a second – and accurate sensing equipment across the Atlantic has only been available for a relatively short period of time. The large variability in seasonal and annual flows also make it difficult to provide a conclusive long term projection. The scientists are, however, actively working to get a better understanding of the phenomena and it is hoped that their research will inform future predictions of climate change hazards. The Gulf Stream is a feature of Western European climate that has a great warming effect on Western European nations, particularly during the winter and in the north. If the Gulf Stream were to slow down or sink entirely it may lead to a drop in temperature across Western Europe. Scientists have previously predicted that global warming could produce such a slow down but recent studies have shown that this may not be the case. However, the studies are still inconclusive and it is likely that the real mechanisms governing the flow of the Gulf Stream will not be understood for a long time.

I think thats a case of wishful thinking.The latest models for the SE show a gradual increase of temperatures over the coming week,which is backed up by BBC weather online.That E block of cold air just does not want to move any further our way.In fact it will start to retract next week from across Europe reducing the upper atmosphere temps in the process,bringing a thaw to their snowfields.Having said the weather dynamics take on a new slant from the end of next week with cold air moving down from the N with LP,which could bring Scotland alot of snow and the rest of us to follow afterwards.But as we all know a week is a long time in weather forecasting,especially of late,where we have seen such a variation in the model runs from one day to the next,so we will have to wait and see what transpires.

What future climate scenarios should we consider? The debate on global change has largely failed to factor in the inherently chaotic, sensitively balanced, and threshold-laden nature of Earth’s climate system and the increased likelihood of abrupt climate change. Our current speculations about future climate and its impacts have focused on the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, which has forecast gradual global warming of 1.4° to 5.8° Celsius over the next century. It is prudent to superimpose on this forecast the potential for abrupt climate change induced by thermohaline shutdown. Such a change could cool down selective areas of the globe by 3° to 5° Celsius, while simultaneously causing drought in many parts of the world. These climate changes would occur quickly, even as other regions continue to warm slowly. It is critical to consider the economic and political ramifications of this geographically selective climate change. Specifically, the region most affected by a shutdown—the countries bordering the North Atlantic—is also one of the world’s most developed. The key component of this analysis is when a shutdown of the Conveyor occurs. Two scenarios are useful to contemplate: Scenario 1: Conveyor slows down within next two decades. Such a scenario could quickly and markedly cool the North Atlantic region, causing disruptions in global economic activity. These disruptions may be exacerbated because the climate changes occur in a direction opposite to what is commonly expected, and they occur at a pace that makes adaptation difficult. Scenario 2: Conveyor slows down a century from now. In such a scenario, cooling of the North Atlantic region may partially or totally offset the major effects of global warming in this region. Thus, the climate of the North Atlantic region may rapidly return to one that more resembles today’s—even as other parts of the world, particularly less-developed regions, experience the unmitigated brunt of global warming. If the Conveyor subsequently turns on again, the “deferred” warming may be delivered in a decade.