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Meoooow... it's to hot now where's my water bowl..
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Yep I recently had my flat insulated, certainly adds to the temps. Cuts out the noise of the neighbors playing their jungle music at 2 in the morning as well .
You must be used to it then! and some can take more heat the same like some can take more intense cold. I can handle it outside I don't complain but I can certainly feel it! I feel the heat and say to my self this is amazing! saw a woman in a hooded top other day, well she wasn't even sweating on the bus either!
It's usually Dnb(drum n bass) round my way which I like so not bothered.. well that does depend how loud if sleeping I can sleep through music usually but not people shouting and mucking about, insulation don't block out people talking loud late at night outside though does it! "hey we are in a heatwave as you may know that means windows are open and we can here you talking loud at 3am!"
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Nothing will ever compare to the humidity in Singapore though, absolutely horrid. Feels as if you're in an oven, not even due to the temps but the humidity.
Just added more to my post
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That's good then Matty! it's Ok if you can cope. The thing is it is a remarkable heatwave for here, I can handle high temps outside but the 30C's really are making me feel it, I find it very uncomfortable more so in the heat indoors. My flat was insulated a few months ago but as I have sunshine through double glazing it heats up and stays in(even with curtains shut but there not thick ones)but I know the next winter freezes would be keeping in the radiator heat unlike before the insulation! when it would get cold quickly after turning off rads. this is the main reason it was done for the cold rather then heat, heatwaves are rarer than cold spells as far as I know, and we are getting back to cold winters and hot summers it seems so yep climate change big time!!
Must say the insulation does work for the walls it prevents the heat getting in but you need to be north facing, not hot sunshine coming in windows, if you do then as to the reason to keep curtains shut. I knoow some council house that have insulation it does not get to hot in heatwaves even with sunshine through windows, must be the type of glass or maybe sunshine not in the rooms for as long possibly being a house the air flow works differently, a particular house has windows both north and south so I can imagine a cross flow of air cools the house. and heat rises and with a loft the heat goes up there.
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Always been my point, nobody ever complains about the heat when on holiday but they do at home even though it's 10 degrees cooler sometimes and less humid.
I haven't needed a fan once during this spell, all down to very low humidity.
How hot is your home? I found actually my fan works best at night with window letting in less high temperatures, maybe because the heat gets blown towards me like a Sahara hot wind when it's the higher temps outside and in here?
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With a temp in my flat 32C today and hovering around 30C now it is hot! harder to cope with than outside think due to less movement of air flows, the heat compressed into a small area maybe a reason. Things I am doing to stay less hot still hot but so can handle it!
Many of you are probably doing most or some of these things if not maybe give it ago if to hot. some advice from me I am doing these:
1 - Drinking cold water keep a bottle chilled down in the fridge, get a large bottle of water from shop keep in fridge pour water into glass/cup rather then drink from bottle, when empty or low re-fill bottle from tap and chill again.. .
2 - Cold milk can cool us fast it works for me but have water too.
3 - Sit in a shallow bath of cool water that is cold but not to cold especially if you are sensitive to cold, I was getting heat exhaustion set in the other day felt really hot and unwell sat in the cool bath felt better after half hour or so.
4 - Use a shower to rinse your head/hair in cool water.
5 - One thing that I found out tonight works a treat is a flannel/cloth rinsed in cold water wring out a bit so wet not dripping and put round neck or over shoulders, you will need to rotate the flannel/whatever you use so that the area touching you skin is then turned over and the outer surface then touches your skin, reason is the inner area warm after a while and the outer cools (especially if a fan is blowing towards you) swap it from your neck to over shoulders. obviously don't touch anything electrical like your computer with damp/wet hands.
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On another note... I got home from work, and my wife didn't tell me the water has been cut off, due to a leak somewhere nearby. So I had my weekly hair cut, and got in the shower for a cold cool down and no water, then she decides to tell me. Water won't be back on until the morning. So I now have to go to bed in this hot weather covered in the hair I could not get rid off. It's ichy in the coldest weather, looks like I will be very irritable in the morning...... Anyone fancy letting me borrow their shower, or even a hose down in the garden
Must be difficult for you especially during a heatwave, should they really not provide homes that are cut off from the tap with bottled water? I think they should do, what if someone can't get out to buy bottled water.
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Would like to post this link, many options and it has a large range of model data the link is on top of page: http://www.eldoradocountyweather.com/current/models/Europe/12-ECMWF-Ensemble/ecmwf-12-10day-850hpa-temp-ensemble.html
Here are a few links to some of those options:
http://www.eldoradocountyweather.com/current/models/Atlantic/gfs-00-listings.html
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http://www.eldoradocountyweather.com/current/models/Europe/gefs-00-listings.html
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Two amazing recent satellite image below and the sat can be found here - click on Current World Conditions to get satellite that is zoomable - http://www.eldoradocountyweather.com/forecast/world-forecasts/world-temperatures.html
I wanted to show the shape of the cloud around the high to show the large scale high pressure as the clear skies (as the current heatwave)
Amazing!
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This is something I hope we'll avoid for a long time.
What the rain or storms?
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Classic summer downpour animation -
Enjoy!
Netanimations!!
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So am I gathering that the storms will be a mostly southern event? Typical!!!
They would push north on the plume.
I'm in Stanwell and some very deep rumble sounds can't see any lightning on detectors anyone hear this?? I must check outside if continues but are look out window first.
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I can hear deep rumbles notning on the lightning detector so I imagine it's a bassy party.. oh well are imagine it's a storm
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Question for surrey. What do you think exactly, that this weather is doing for industry??
Probably means the sales on ice lollies..
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I can understand a few people dont like this heat.. But for one second.. Look at what it is doing in terms of our industry and our crops... And it does not look like it is going to end any time soon... I think personally.. Of course we will see a brief spell where we get some rain ETC before we see August and September turn into scorchers too
It is possible to have no rain for many weeks.. hope not!! was expecting at least a heavy shower today but they did say isolated! September can be great for clear hot days and frosty nights/mornings.
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17th July 2013
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Max Temperatures
32C at Heathrow and Northolt - Highlighted is any temperature from 31C+ in blue
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(place shown first then elevation/height of land in brackets(---m) ,and then max temp in C)
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Yeovilton (20 m) 30.0 °CWoodvale (10 m) 24.0 °CWittering (73 m) 28.0 °CWick (36 m) 22.0 °CWeybourne (20 m) 22.0 °CWattisham (89 m) 29.0 °CWartonAerodrome (17 m) 25.0 °CWarcop Range (227 m) 24.0 °CWalney (14 m) 22.0 °CWainfleet (5 m) 24.0 °CWaddington (68 m) 26.0 °CValley (10 m) 24.0 °CTulloch Bridge (236 m) 18.0 °CTrawscoed (62 m) 24.0 °CTopcliffe (28 m) 27.0 °CTiree Island (12 m) 17.0 °CThorney Island (3 m) 26.0 °CThomastown (72 m) 26.0 °CThe Cairnwell (933 m) 16.0 °CTees-Side (37 m) 27.0 °CSumburgh Cape (5 m) 13.0 °CStrathallan (35 m) 24.0 °CStornoway (15 m) 19.0 °CStaverton Private (29 m) 29.0 °CSt Catherine's Pt (24 m) 22.0 °CSt Bees Head (123 m) 23.0 °CSt Athan (49 m) 25.0 °CSpadeadam II (286 m) 23.0 °CSpadeadam (325 m) 22.0 °CSouthend-on-Sea AP (15 m) 27.0 °CSouthamptom AP (9 m) 28.0 °CSouth Uist Range (4 m) 15.0 °CSolent MRSC (13 m) 28.0 °CSkye/Lusa (18 m) 17.0 °CShoreham Airport (2 m) 24.0 °CShoeburyness Landwick (3 m) 25.0 °CShobdon (99 m) 28.0 °CShawbury (72 m) 26.0 °CShap (249 m) 24.0 °CScilly St Mary (30 m) 21.0 °CScatsa/Shetland Island (22 m) 14.0 °CScampton (57 m) 27.0 °CSaint Helier (55 m) 28.0 °CRoyal Marines Base Chivenor (6 m) 22.0 °CRostherne (35 m) 27.0 °CRhyl (76 m) 23.0 °CRedesdale Camp (212 m) 25.0 °CRaf Mona (62 m) 24.0 °CRNAS Culdrose (84 m) 24.0 °CRAF West Freugh (10 m) 25.0 °CRAF Lyneham (147 m) 29.0 °CPrestwick (27 m) 23.0 °CPortglenone (65 m) 24.0 °CPlymouth MtBatten (50 m) 25.0 °CPershore (31 m) 30.0 °CPembrey Burrows (6 m) 25.0 °COdiham (118 m) 29.0 °COban Airport (60 m) 18.0 °CNottingham/Watnall (117 m) 28.0 °CNorwich Weather Centre (37 m) 28.0 °CNortholt (39 m) 32.0 °CNewquay (103 m) 21.0 °CNewcastle Airport (81 m) 26.0 °CMumbles (32 m) 23.0 °CMoD Boscombe Down (126 m) 30.0 °CMilford Haven (32 m) 24.0 °CMildenhall Royal Air Force (10 m) 30.0 °CMiddle Wallop (91 m) 30.0 °CMarham (21 m) 30.0 °CManston South East (54 m) 26.0 °CManston (50 m) 26.0 °CManchester (69 m) 26.0 °CMagilligan (6 m) 24.0 °CMachrihanish (10 m) 22.0 °CLydd Airport (3 m) 25.0 °CLuton Airport (160 m) 29.0 °CLough Fea (227 m) 23.0 °CLossiemouth (6 m) 23.0 °CLondon Stansted Airport (106 m) 30.0 °CLondon St James Park (5 m) 31.0 °CLondon Heathrow Airport (25 m) 32.0 °CLondon City Airport (5 m) 31.0 °CLondon Biggin Hill Airport (183 m) 29.0 °CLoftus Samos (159 m) 22.0 °CLoch Glascarnoch (264 m) 17.0 °CLiverpool AP (26 m) 24.0 °CLittle Rissington (210 m) 28.0 °CLiscombe (347 m) 26.0 °CLinton-On-Ouse (14 m) 27.0 °CLeuchars (10 m) 24.0 °CLerwick (84 m) 14.0 °CLeeming (32 m) 26.0 °CLeek (298 m) 26.0 °CLeeds Bradford Intl. Airport (207 m) 26.0 °CLeeds Bradford Intl. Airport (208 m) 25.0 °CLeconfield (7 m) 25.0 °CLarkhill (133 m) 30.0 °CLangdon Bay (117 m) 25.0 °CLakenheath (10 m) 30.0 °CLake Vyrnwy (359 m) 24.0 °CKirkwall Airport (21 m) 18.0 °CKinloss (5 m) 24.0 °CKeswick (81 m) 25.0 °CKenley (170 m) 29.0 °CJersey Airport (84 m) 26.0 °CIsle of Portland (52 m) 22.0 °CIslay/Port Ellen (17 m) 20.0 °CIoM / Ronaldsway AP (16 m) 24.0 °CInverness/Dalcross (9 m) 23.0 °CInverbervie (134 m) 23.0 °CHumberside (31 m) 24.0 °CHolbeach (2 m) 23.0 °CHigh Wycombe (205 m) 30.0 °CHerstmonceux (52 m) 28.0 °CHereford/Credenhill (76 m) 28.0 °CHawarden (9 m) 24.0 °CGuernsey Airport (101 m) 24.0 °CGreat Dun Fell (847 m) 17.0 °CGravesend Broadness (3 m) 30.0 °CGlenanne (160 m) 24.0 °CGlen Ogle (564 m) 17.0 °CGlasgow Bishopton (59 m) 24.0 °CGlasgow Airport (8 m) 23.0 °CGatwick Airport (62 m) 29.0 °CFilton (59 m) 29.0 °CFarnborough (64 m) 30.0 °CFairford Airport (87 m) 30.0 °CFair Isle (57 m) 14.0 °CExeter Airport (30 m) 28.0 °CEskdalemuir (242 m) 23.0 °CEglinton AP (9 m) 25.0 °CEdinburgh Gogarbank (57 m) 24.0 °CEdinburgh Airport (41 m) 24.0 °CEast Midlands (94 m) 29.0 °CDunkeswell Aerodrome (253 m) 28.0 °CDundrennan (113 m) 22.0 °CDundee/Riverside (4 m) 23.0 °CDrumalbin (245 m) 21.0 °CDonna Nook (11 m) 20.0 °CDoncaster Airport (12 m) 28.0 °CDishforth (33 m) 28.0 °CCrosby (9 m) 24.0 °CCranwell (62 m) 27.0 °CCranfield (111 m) 29.0 °CCoventry Airport (82 m) 30.0 °CConingsby (6 m) 27.0 °CColeshill (96 m) 29.0 °CChurch Lawford (106 m) 29.0 °CChurch Fenton (8 m) 27.0 °CCharterhall (111 m) 25.0 °CCharlwood (58 m) 30.0 °CCastlederg (50 m) 25.0 °CCarlisle (27 m) 25.0 °CCarlisle (26 m) 24.0 °CCardinham (199 m) 24.0 °CCardiff Airport (67 m) 25.0 °CCapel Curig (215 m) 23.0 °CCambridge (15 m) 30.0 °CCamborne (88 m) 21.0 °CCairngorms (1245 m) 12.0 °CBrize Norton (81 m) 30.0 °CBristol Airport (189 m) 27.0 °CBridlington (19 m) 23.0 °CBournemouth (10 m) 30.0 °CBoulmer (27 m) 25.0 °CBlackpool Airport (10 m) 23.0 °CBirmingham (99 m) 29.0 °CBingley (267 m) 25.0 °CBenson (57 m) 30.0 °CBenbecula (6 m) 15.0 °CBelfast/Harbour (5 m) 24.0 °CBelfast/Aldergrove AP (68 m) 24.0 °CBedford (84 m) 29.0 °CBealach na Bà (773 m) 12.0 °CBaltasound (15 m) 15.0 °CBallypatrick Fst (156 m) 22.0 °CBala (163 m) 25.0 °CAviemore (228 m) 23.0 °CAultbea (10 m) 16.0 °CAonach Mòr (1130 m) 12.0 °CAndrewsfield (87 m) 29.0 °CAltnaharra (80 m) 19.0 °CAlderney Channel Is (71 m) 23.0 °CAlbemarle (146 m) 25.0 °CAboyne (140 m) 23.0 °CAberporth (134 m) 20.0 °CAberdeen/Dyce (69 m) 24.0 °CAberdaron (94 m) 22.0 °C-- -
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Peaked at 31.8c here at 4.30 in Saffron Walden. Nicely warm.
Was 38c when I was holding the thermo in direct sunlight.
Much more cumulus today than before though, first day really where the sun's been eclipsed by the clouds for longer than a few seconds.
Digital?? Many years ago I was blowing up mercury thermometers doing that
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Please read the below advice on keeping well during the heatwave.
Heat exhaustion and heatstroke are two heat-related health conditions. If they're not quickly treated, they can both be very serious.
Heat exhaustionHeat exhaustion can occur when the temperature inside the body (the core temperature) rises to anything between the normal 37°C (98.6°F) up to 40°C (104°F).
At this temperature, the levels of water and salt in the body begin to fall, which can cause a person to feel sick, feel faint and sweat heavily. Read more about the symptoms of heat exhaustion.
If a person with heat exhaustion is taken quickly to a cool place, is given water to drink and has their excess clothing removed, they should begin to feel better within half an hour and have no long-term complications.
Without treatment, they could develop heatstroke.
Certain groups are more at risk of developing heatstroke or suffering complications from dehydration, and should be taken to hospital. This includes:
- [*]children under two years old [*]very elderly people [*]people with
Read more about treating heat exhaustion.
HeatstrokeHeatstroke is far more serious than heat exhaustion. It occurs when the body can no longer cool itself and starts to overheat.
When the core temperature rises above 40°C (104°F) the cells inside the body begin to break down and important parts of the body stop working.
If left untreated, it can lead to complications, such as organ failure and brain damage. Some people die from heatstroke.
The symptoms of heatstroke can include:
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[*]mental confusion
[*]rapid shallow breathing (hyperventilation)
[*]loss of consciousness
Read more about the symptoms of heatstroke.
What to doHeatstroke is a medical emergency and should be treated immediately. Dial 999 to request an ambulance if you suspect heatstroke.
While you're waiting for an ambulance to arrive, make sure that the person is as cool as possible. Move them to a cool area as quickly as possible, remove excess clothing and try to cool them by fanning them. If they're conscious, give them cool, not cold, water to drink.
Read more about treating heatstroke.
Who's at risk?Heatstroke can affect anyone, but some people are more at risk than others and should take extra precautions during warm weather, especially during a heatwave. These include:
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[*]the elderly
[*]babies and young children
[*]people with conditions that affect the body's ability to cool down, such as diabetes
[*]those who have drunk too much alcohol (which dehydrates the body)
[*]people on certain drugs and medications, such as antipsychotics and betablockers
[*]people who might find it difficult to keep cool during a heatwave – for example, those who are bed-bound or disabled.
Read more about the causes of heat stroke.
Avoiding heat exhaustion and heatstrokeThere are steps you can take to reduce the risk of heat exhaustion and heatstroke during a heatwave:
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[*]Stay out of the sun during the hottest parts of the day, particularly between 11am and 3pm.
[*]If you have to go out in the heat, walk in the shade, apply sunscreen and wear a hat.
[*]Don't leave anyone in a parked car.
[*]Avoid extreme physical exertion.
[*]Have plenty of cold drinks, but avoid drinks that contain caffeine and alcohol.
[*]Eat cold foods, particularly salads and fruit with a high water content.
[*]Take a cool shower, bath or body wash.
[*]Sprinkle water over your skin or clothing, or keep a damp cloth on the back of your neck.
[*]Keep your environment cool.
http://www.nhs.uk/conditions/heat-exhaustion-and-heatstroke/Pages/Introduction.aspx
"Don't leave anyone in a parked car" (during heatwaves) the advice is for people but don't forget animals must not be left in a car or other hot vehicle. Keep look out for dogs or even cats shut up in hot cars/other vehicles please!
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Met Office forecasting a few thundery showers across east midlands/east anglia/south east tomorrow.
NMM has CAPE values up to 1000 j/kg with temps of 29 and dewpoints of 16+
That be amazing been keeping check on here and Met O..
Would cool air a little I think if we get heavy downpours, the grass is yellow around here everywhere it needs those storrms well the rain part of them any way!
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I never said wind speed, I said wind direction... Traditionally an NE'ly is a cooler direction for areas further South and East hence temps in these areas will be lower than they have been during the weekend so I am struggling to understand how there would be a 6C rise in the temperatures? Suppose stranger things have happened though.
If the GFS 18Z came off then yes, temps could get up into the mid 30's somewhere next week as the upper flow is an SE'ly and surface winds will be an ESE'ly which means less sea track and a warm continent where winds will be blowing from.
Thanks for that, sorry I did go back an edit was meant to place a (?) but as you say it is the direction that makes the difference, we can have strong hot winds if from the right direction drawing in the heat, this usually from the continent.
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No idea, that's the only part I've seen, not read into it yet but it does seem a tad bit too low, maybe if they said temperatures of over 35oC in the workplace or 40oC for chefs or they did it relative to the line of work then it would make more sense...
I have worked in a kitchen during a heatwave many years ago it was one event in the mid 90s probably 95 it was well over 100F(37C+) in the kitchen and eventually they shut it down. There should be a danger level but for places like restaurants and takeaway shops then things would be difficult for business if the 27C max was established I think. In the Kitchen hanging around a grill is hot enough under normal outside conditions but in a heatwave it's unbearable I really do feel for those chefs and just think the restaurants eating areas are cooler, maybe put in an extra tip when we go for a meal then!
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Where does the 6C rise come from despite winds coming from a similar direction? Not too convinced of any temp profiles after 5 days on the BBC site tbh.
1mph drop in speed?..
Hot and settled spell discussion and temperature reports July 2013
in Spring Weather Discussion
Posted · Edited by ElectricSnowStorm
I'd advise not chasing anyone away with a cricket bat in this heat...