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Recent radar image from weatheronline, heavy rainband moving east and north east across the UK. Heavy thundery downpours following across the SW and later South. Heavy rain developing over Central and Eastern Scotland.
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47 minutes ago, 4wd said:
You only need look at this especially http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/msl/images/index.html?id=373516 to see more obvious exposed veins which are the most likely explanation.
Weathering without water creates effects rarely seem on earth.Thanks for this but the structures are above the surface seem like small rocks in image I posted above are check out the link.
It does look simular to the image in the link provided although to a tinier version of the effect.
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Rain Watch
Hi everyone, have decided to start up a separate topic to look more closely at expected rainfall accumulations in the days ahead. It's a concern that more new floods are possible if not likely through this weekend and into next week, this coming from several large scale weather systems and possible Atlantic storms hitting the UK and ROI over the next 7 days at least, it's likely that some breaks in the rain will occur at times though.
I'm not going to hide the fact that severe floods in new areas are possibly on the way I say possibly even if I think likely, which I do.
Below I've put on a rain alert map created from precipitation data models of which the one's I have access, please use my map as a general guide of where the heaviest rain could be accumulated over the next 48hrs or so, please do allow for some small adjustments do not take the map as 100 percent set in stone, usually the expected accumulations of rainfall may be more or less in any one area and exact locations can change, I might not be able to update map.
(Map can be shared where you like)
Map expires MON 0300hrs - January 4
W = on the map this means that I am watching for upgrades of 30mm or more.
Light yellow + W =30mm - rainfall may get accumulated up to 30mm but may upgrade to 40mm for a level 1 so is under a watch zone.
Yellow = 40mm - 50mm accm rain
Orange = 50mm - 80mm accm rain
Red = 80mm - 100mm accm rain
Dark red = 100+ accm rain.
Many areas seeing rain this heavy at times some very heavy and prolonged, expect 10mm-25mm generally.
Some of the largest rainfalls likely to occur over higher ground.
For the winds associated with these weather systems/storms likely gale or severe gale at times please see other threads and warnings.
Please post anything related to rainfall forecasting, model ppn data, alerts and warnings, your own rain maps and forecasts.
ZONE51.
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I have been taking a closer look at the images of Mars surface taken by Curiosity Rover sent by NASA to do scientific experiences and analysis. Not looked closely at many as have recently started doing this, (I have looked generally at the images over the years but not zoomed to look in more detail) this image here revealed 2 unusual things, I am looking for things that could be non-naturally created, on earth this would be called manmade, apart from my general fascination with this alien landscape that's what I am looking for, things that are standing out or not blending in. I have been scooting around some sites mainly UFO/Alien type sites, and viewed all kinds of lumps and bumps on the Mars surface that people have picked out, some that do look unusual and out of place to the surface generally, but then it is an unknown planet, formations that look 'alienmade' if you like could well be just Mar's natural productions!
Unusual lines of small stones - fig2
Slabs/slates flat rounded and jagged, sitting on medium size stones - fig1, how did these get to sit on the rocks..?? - fig1 - would imagine they most likely arrived there from falling higher up, anyone thoughts on this??
My thoughts are life could be living under the surface now, or did and is gone now. How do we know what ancient alien civilization could have lived on the planets surface, maybe they do somewhere, maybe they went underground.. isn't that what we would do if our surface become to difficult to live on??..
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Arrived here in Stanwell (next to Heathrow AP south side) .. rain becoming very heavy some very strong winds be getting up soon
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Radar map 1530hrs:
On this active front some outbreaks of lightning/thunder, very heavy rain, hail, sleet and snowfall risk, gusty 40-50mph gust of wind (on and also around the front), also some active showers after the front too, as seen also on the radar here. Turning cold even very cold feeling.
(Image 2 parts joined)
(front moving from the west to the east)
Radar image used: http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/
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I found a satellite image of a recent UK storm while looking through a slide show of photos on the Daily Express online, I could not but notice what appears to be a face. Below is an image copy drawn on to indicate / show viewers the storm face, although it should spring out at you though not to obvious as why highlighted (top left of photo near to Scotland)
For the article and satellite the image: http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/629617/floods-north-england-weather-climate-change-natural-disaster (photo slideshow near bottom of page it's in there)
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I have been thinking about flood defence and have thought of a few ideas that could possibly be looked at more closely.
Some of the most ridiculous ideas that people have come out with over the decades have been developed into projects and then inventions that are very useful today.
Here are 2 flood easing systems I have thought of, they can be used separately or combined depending on the local geography of the land, they would be used together with general flood defence walls.
1 - Water absorbing sponges
2 - Drains in mountains
What ideas do you have?
Never scrap an idea to quickly, science is in need of new thinking, new ideas for now and the future.
Our world's changing climate is in fast mode, it is changing patterns and swapping climates very quickly and intensely. Those that were not to sure before probably are now. We only need to look at the UK flood/storm events over the last few years to believe the change.
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14 hours ago, Bristle boy said:
Who said anything about "destroying the environment"? There are some communities crying out for dredging and many of them 'warned' the agencies and authorities on numerous occasions over last few years. And.....
For those communities living in picturesque areas be prepared for concrete flood defences if you REALLY want proper flood defences. Ugly looking construction that has a far better chance of diverting cascades of water away from communities.
I think we need to form a new defence system, the usual flood defences can and do work but water is channelled faster and deeper if it's blocked from spreading out, naturally the water wants to spread out as it does over farm fields, or flood plains, where it's blocked is where it affects someone else further down river. There's not much one can do to stop all floods the power of water is incredible and new ideas on how to block the rivers waters from getting into towns and cities are always welcome.
Concerning images of that huge 'dartboard' storm developing for mid week this week (or before can change time scale)
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Saturday (yesterday) morning heard heavy rain on the roof proberly around half hr with the continuing noisy northerly gale.. I didn't see any sleet or snow mixed in but it might have done at some point. Further south into deeper Surrey someone I know reported falling heavy snow, they are below 200m.
This morning freezing but the wind dropped and allowed a fairly thick widespread frost to form. Mostly clear some upper cloud looks like the cirrus.
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Good posts in the thread this evening - best reading in a long while.
General theme is for low heights and trough to maintain a grip on the UK for foreseeable, but nothing too unusual for what is the most unsettled period of the year when westerly airstreams reign supreme.
I'm not seeing a return of conditions we have seen for the past month, so things will feel much more normal and seasonal in many respects, lively springs to mind.
Possibly a slow progress of increasingly colder air masses and stopping around longer, with milder air gradually cooling each time it arrives, with the atlantic lows rolling in bringing increasingly more northern snowfall. I expect a lot of ppn in the weeks a head being sleet/snow rather then rain only.
I feel that the journey into winter is going to be very interesting and with with some surprises from the n/e,
A winter of particular interest.
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I have read lots but not enough I shall read more later when things get going, I can never read to much about the snowy weather, might spot someone doin some towing, with this setup things can change, nothing is set in stone, but I'd expect the odd moan and groan, are be radar watchin hopin the snow is in range, just a few flakes in the breeze would be cool, but I know one thing tho I'm gonna be freezin. - ZONE51
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Anyway looking interesting this eve, and watch out for potentially those very strong winds later developing, the wind chill be very low in the winds. very cold tonight.
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Above is a snow map I made last night. Scotland is likely to get some thick snowfall. For the areas shaded in pink further south the chances are things will change, so take this as a guide to what is possible with the wintry weather over the weekend (starting Friday in Scotland) it could be that it's " I need the precipitation" rather then the cold for some, as it be cold enough looking at the temps, the upper 850's temperatures looking cold enough the dew points on ther east coast looking above 0c but inland below, I'd imagine snow showers for those further south on lower ground would be at night.
The Arctic cold spell is coming please do prepare:
Warm clothes, access to warm gloves and hat, water and snacks in car/other (keep the food away from heat unless it's meant to be hot) blankets (store in your ride) mobile phones and charged/charger, battery torches, pee pots?... you never know if your going to get stuck in the snow, or simply break down in the cold without the snow. It does sound obvious yes but we can forget simple things and be unprepared.
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Hi everyone, are you looking foward to this weekends cold spell?
I couldn't find a thread on it, am doing this to set things off and am happy to have my posts put into any other thread on the cold spell or merge.
I've looked at some model data looking good for the cold fans! (incl myself) are be reading closely the model thread later. I hope to see a few flakes in the wind at least and it's looking likely many of us are going to see wintry showers popping through from the north. Some areas of Scotland might see some thick snowfall, and some of these features could just head south to give a dusting or more!
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fergieweather, on 13 Oct 2015 - 21:39, said
Either way, it's an interesting and challenging period unfolding
I feel that this late autumn/ winters one of the the most interesting to study, more likely then not i feel also one of the top 10 most interesting winters to come
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Spring: Cold,cool.
Summer: Cool.
Autumn: Cool, cold.
Winter. Cold, cool, freezing, ice floes....all that sort of thing.
You must be a cold fan then..
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Have been looking at the data and am thinking about doing a LRF.
It's looking very interesting, the developing super strong El-Nino has added to the interest and mainly but not only this has got me to take a closer look at data to write a winter forecast.
Very briefly my early thoughts:
Before Nov are input some data and info, but early indications are of a very cold spell possibly a big freeze by December and throughout the month.
November could be cold and snowy - widespread.
On the FAX charts / BBC weather I look out for increasing number of occluded fronts and cold fronts. Indicating more cold air, rather then mild sectors.
Flocks of birds (seagull type shape wide wing span slow wing thrusting) in theirs masses have been flying from the northeast over inland south east Eng (seen over my area) recently. I and sure many others noticed this during Oct 2010, before the big freeze of late Nov/Dec. They could be migrating/moving from the cold or developing cold / or sea temps, over Scandinavia.
Watching for blocking of Atlantic lows, this create more warmer air if they arrive to many early winter.
Looking out for strong high pressure over Scandinavia (scandi high)
(both already starting)
Sea/ocean temperatures around the south seas of Greenland (north Atl) (the low maker)
Sea/ocean temperatures in the Northsea of coast from Britain. (the snow maker)
North / East Europe snow cover, heavy snow is due to affect there this week, the more snow there the more the cold here. snow cover build up creates more cold pools making any easterly colder over Britain, the colder air and warmer north seas creates more snow, the snow cover also reflects sunlight.
Very few Atlantic lows (less warmth) plus above average east europe snow cover creates alot of cold air.
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Thank you i had just been correcting this. All OK use now.
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Welcome to the Weather Poll 2015
What are your likes and dislikes from the weather? please take the poll, the end results will be looked at closely and then turned into a pie chart.
Simply tick / click on the any of the boxes that apply to you from the particular questions.
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Here is a selection of wild weather photos that I have collected from the web.
The thread gallery here contains almost 70 incredible photos.
Apart from an amazing gallery of photos the question is are these severe weather events around the world becoming more extreme, not only this but are they becoming more frequent?
(Have placed each image onto a same size background to enable easy viewing without size changing)
Gallery:
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This sounds exciting to watch but would likely set off something huge in the media and possibly a mass scare/fear in some areas around the world especially in areas that do not get much news and so not know it's a hoax. Certainly going to be interesting though.
Read some other information on this project or experiment:
http://ufosightingshotspot.blogspot.co.uk/2014/02/world-wide-false-flag-ufo-event-planned.html
The goal is maximum panic - from Yahoo! newsThis is a quite concern at what could happen during the event, and shouldn't be taken lightly, especially when a statement like this is made and the intentions they have (the organizers of event)
My idea with this interesting experiment is it is a psychological reactive experiment - to find out how people react to such events, but mostly due to and thankfully due to the Internet/media many a word gets around that it is not an attack or invasion from space by other beings but a hoax.
What do you think of this and how are people likely to react? should it go ahead or be banned? should the event be allowed only in places that know about it to avoid panic?
Tobor.
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Storm & Convective Discussion - 1 September 2015 onwards
in Storms & Severe Weather
Posted · Edited by ZONE 51
to add info
NW/BBC/MO have mentioned the risk of thunder in the south UK, anytime is interesting for convective but it's January and is not really chatted about as much as when it's the usual convective seasonal months. Usually it's only a few rumbles anyway but there can be thunderstorms any month.
Looking at the GFS I see the lifted index is negative or yellow indicating an unstable air-mass after the rain fronts move through today, bringing heavy downpours of a convective nature later today, overnight and Monday particularly over the SW and South coast possibly moving inland at times. Low pressure is in charge today.
My barometer has dropped at least 5 mb since a few hours, it's heading left of the centre as the low heads up.
Just had a look around UKWW has chat on the potential. Estofex have some lightning risk SW UK.