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-12.1 it briefly started heading back up to -11, but has started dropping fast again....

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6 minutes ago, Hairy Celt said:

very poor practice, especially by the police.

While it is not illegal to be driving with snow on your roof, if you are caught - it's 3 points on the license and a £60 fine. It should really be illegal, because it's not exactly uncommon for the snow to slide along the roof and down the windscreen, nor is it uncommon for snow to fly off the roof of someone else's car and land on one behind it.

Meanwhile - re Datmoor:

I've just been reading that the fire in Cornwall is suspected to be Arson, and it's suspected that the Dartmoor fire is probably Arson too. I'm reading (on Twitter) that the fire crews are struggling to reach the fire because of it's location, and very icy roads. It is not clear if they have actually managed to reach it yet, but reports from people who can actually see it - are that it is still spreading, and spreading fast.

re Weather:

We are at -11.6C

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Guys, I know it's not Scotland - or weather related but -

Google "Dartmoor national park fire"

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1 minute ago, drm said:

And safe from a sea sourced wind too?

Yeah that's true, we only have a river.

Google says we are about 18 miles from the Sea (straight line), and we are at 154m ASL.

We are about 30 miles from Edinburgh (straight line).

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Bloody hell, the difference tens of miles makes.

We are now at -10.4C

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7 minutes ago, 101_North said:

Was down to -6.5c earlier but like last night it's clouded over a bit and back up to -4.5c!

-9.8!

Clear sky, can see twinkly stars.

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25 minutes ago, Snowplough33 said:

from watching the MOD since early December and then that increasing to watching every model run start to finish for 3 weeks prior to the spell - and all the ups and downs that come with that.

I sometimes think - if people are training to be psychologists, popping in that thread could amass a wealth of data for them.....

I used to be a Model Thread watcher. But now that I suffer from severe anxiety and panic disorder - I'm pretty certain, that staying away from that place, is the best thing I can do, for my health.

I sometimes think "this is a local shop, for local people" from League of Gentleman - should be a tagline for that part of the forum

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27 minutes ago, 101_North said:

Temp heading back down again. -2.3c and falling. 

-5.1C already 

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1 minute ago, Blitzen said:

-0.1c/2.8c.

Checked back our 24hr records and they revealed that we actually got down to 8.3c at 08.10am which was lower than my first post this morning.

Edit: -8.3 C

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1 minute ago, drm said:

I reckon it will be a slow melt and little in the way of a breakdown event snow to rain across the country,if the sun gets out after Sunday it will melt it but no rapid thaw for me if cloudy it's surprising how snow sticks around at below 6c especially if little wind ,of course I might be talking rubbish and it melts on an hour

That was what happened in 2010. The problem was the the bottom layer of snow had constantly melted with heat escaping through roofs, and then froze again because of the snow sitting on top of it. So when the thaw started, even though it was slow, because the bottom layer of snow had essentially become separated from the layer above it - it started sliding well before the vast bulk of the snow on top of it was actually ready to move. This meant that the weight of the snow pushing down on the slippy layer - brought down slates when the bottom layer started sliding.

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Just now, Puffy MacCloud said:

Whos of yous on the eastern side of the country are looking forward to the Big Thaw then?

("Load the ark Morag! Beans, eggs and black pudding will do. We're going for a sail. I'll arrange the wind...")

I'm not. 2010 saw massive flooding when it started thawing, plus gutters and slates coming down. And something not many people even consider, but very sharp icicles suddenly unexpectedly plummeting to the ground as people are walking past.

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OK let's start with Wednesday's Timelapse, which surprisingly still has quite a bit of snow in it.

Right now we move on to minimums - 

We reached -13.9C at 7:52am and our cold record is -14.5C at 8:49am on 3rd Dec 2010

It is currently -1C, and the max today was 0.2C at 12:50pm.

(The DWP have officially released a cold weather payment for the TD10 area using the Charterhall station for reference)

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That's us in to negative double digits now. As of a few minutes ago, it's now -10.1C in Borders Weather land.....

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@101_North That's what happened here. We ended up climbing right up to -5.2C, we are now back down to -5.6C. At this point I am not sure what to expect. Netweather has us down as dropping to -10.8C around 3am, so we will see.

@Blitzen I am so glad you are back home, we've all been getting quite worried!

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We got more snow... that brought the temperature up to a roasting -7.1C

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3 minutes ago, 101_North said:

Clouds lifted a the temp is now down to -6c! 

We are now fluctuating between -7.4 and -7.5C, and the radar shows a blob just about to hit us.... will it be snow? will it be freezing rain?

Will it be frogs? Nothing will surprise me at this point....

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1 minute ago, Hawesy said:

Still +1c here. I do like to be different! 

Actually it’s still +2c just up the road at Leuchars. It’s the easterly wind that’s bringing in sea air. If the wind shifts temperatures will drop here too.

You don't want this.... this is what happened in 2010. And it meant that when the snow started to melt, the bottom of the snow was basically welded to roofs and gutters, and then when he thaw started, the bottom of the snow which had constantly been melting with heat loss through the roof but refreezing because of the cold snow on top of it, would then suddenly slide off the roof pulling slates and gutters down with it.

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3 minutes ago, Mandy Langlands said:

Hey!... anyone heard how @Blitzen is?

hoping she is ok

Oh gosh, I hope she hasn't been kept in!

( -6.7C, I can't even keep track of how fast this falling! )

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I don't even know how low mine CAN go.....

I had to tell Weather Display to ignore -19C because when there is wind and rain, we sometimes get the temperature reading -19C for a second or so. So I assume, being presumably a voltage issue, -19C is the lowest my station can read?

EDIT:

For those waiting for a reading - we are now at -5.9C....

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Are we absolutely sure we aren't in the Day after Tomorrow?

at 6pm we reported -2.9C, at 7pm we are reporting -5.1C

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Well, we are currently at -4.2C and we have dropped it looks like 2.2C in the last hour.

EDIT:

And 5 minutes later we are at -4.5C, it's falling fast!

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4 minutes ago, Quinach said:

Last on this for a few hours before I get banned for spamming this site, but now -7.8c - at this rate, a record breaker for here where lowest I've recorded is -13.2c.

Keep posting! I am interested to see how low and how fast you fall.

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16 minutes ago, A Winter's Tale said:

It would be great if somewhere in Scotland could drop to below -20C

I vote: Not It!

When we dropped to -14.5C previously, the pooch screamed in pain when I took her out for a walk. So I will be happy to stay around -10C but don't want to go much below that.....

I'll let someone else take the batton.

(That said, we are in a frost hollow, so if anywhere is going to plummet... )

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OK, I have been out and took photos and measurements.

The garden is about 20cm

The bin is about 15-16cm

I suspect this 360 panorama won't display properly here:

So if it doesn't and you want to have a look around in all directions - visit it on Google Photos (click the link, and then click on the photo on the page that loads, to launch the photosphere viewer):

Shared album - Andrew Jones-McGuire - Google Photos

PHOTOS.APP.GOO.GL

 It's -1.2C here now.

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I'm fine if this was it. 2010 caused massive flooding when it melted (in places), considering the flooding that happened before the snow arrived, this lot will likely cause some problems when it starts to thaw.