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Glencoe looks to be getting buried!

seriously?... and meteorologically its spring on march 1st as you well know. we all know we might get some late cold in march, or even april, so what? and id suggest its the coldies who have given up, and have forgotten about winter themselves... where are they? sm, ns, teits, wib, etc they know its now highly unlikely that there will be a proper cold/snowy spell...heck even frosty is spring-ramping! lol. so i dont think gibby is 'forgetting' you, not that he or anyone has some sort of duty to predict for you, hes just being realistic and going with the season, most of us now are looking for sunnier, warmer weather.

Let's cut out the childish warm vs cold stuff please.

:yahoo: settling thick and fast

You may not have got much wintry weather this winter but what gets me is that you have totally missed out on a very notable feature this winter for your region....how sunny it has been.Why have you totally missed out this outstanding feature? I sometimes wonder Richard if this is a whole charade and you are playing to an audience with tales of woe and nightmare weather. Now I know for a fact you talk about sunshine levels because we get these tales of woe during summer time on how last December was sunnier than August etc... I have nothing against people saying it has been bad, what I don't like are facts hidden because they don't fit the game plan.

woohoo!....thundersleet here!

There is a major difference, Eugene - spring-like warmth is possible now, in February. Wintry weather isn't a possibility in August for us, and isn't for virtually everywhere in the UK unless you live on Ben Nevis. We might get a frost in September but that's it. In March, summery weather can occur with temperatures in the low twenties, as in 2012. By the time October rolls around, my interest in snow and cold increases, but snow isn't a real possibility until late November usually, and even December isn't a sure thing for snow. Simple fact of the matter - pleasant warm weather is far more likely than snow.

Yeah i don't usually read your posts , disagree about late August being Autumnal, Summer lasts well into September nowadays and even October, look at Oct 31st last year, Spring is much better for those lovely PM Northwesterlies, after mid May it's a very long wait for them hence why i'm so keen to see cold weather as long as possible.

Plenty of interest in the models for further cold PM air incursions at times into March which look like they could be more potent than the current spell. Winter certainly not wanting to give up just yet, spring maybe put on hold temporarily! An example from tonight's ECM

Oh just one last thing, Gibby's model analysis are excellent and anybody who devotes as much of their free time to write such detailed posts has my respect, i just think the focus should still be on Wintry weather for a few more weeks, you would think by the replies i've gotten i want him to focus on Wintry weather in late April or something and not in Winter.

Who mentioned wintry weather in August, wow no chance of wintry weather then unlike now. Summer like weather is not at all common in March, you mention exceptional March weather so i will too, March 2013. My point still stands its still winter and the chance of wintry weather does not all of a sudden finish on March 1st just like Summer doesn't on Sept 1st, early Sept can be very hot, 35C has been recorded then.

Ok by August 23rd, no more mention of summer, only Autumn discussion ok, Deal Mushy?.... LOL, yeah right.

Agree. The decent covering I had 3 weeks ago was good, was nice to see, but it was gone fairly quickly and it was in the early hours. You cant beat seeing snow that settles during the daylight hours. I only remember that happening once and that was in 2010 I think from memory when we had a red warning( few days before christmas). Overall I'm fairly happy with this winter, but that's only because last year was hell in terms of cold. At least I got to wake my 4 year old daughter up and sing "do you want to build a snowman" and to see her face when she looked out of the window was priceless!

Rather optimistic for a warm(ish) March given the relative confidence in pressure building and the cool stratosphere encouraging a +AO. Of course warm in March could still be unsettled and zonal south westerlies.

Here's a photo of it, closest to laying snow we'll get haha.

Nice surprise to wake up to. It's not much, but there's still plenty more showers on the radar!

Actually temperature wise it was the midwest US that was hit hardest last year by the so called "polar vortex." That cold air then traveled over to the eastern seaboard . But the most brutal and sustained chill was centered on Chicago, St. Louis, Minny, etc. This winter the trough has been slightly further east. The eastern third of the country has been more at heart of the cold air plunges from Canada/Siberia. The midwest has also been affected by these cold blasts but they've had some warm spells that they didn't see hardly at all last year. Whereas this year the cold air has remained stationed over the east coast for longer periods.

Yes I think something has been struck, the emergency services are belting up and down the ring road now.

So referring to one of my earlier posts it did get topped off very happy!

Ah the craze of posting sideways has crept out the SW forum and on to here now has it. OK to make you feel happy, I inverted my avatar, to make you feel at home. PS Gail he's trying to post upside down just for you

Lovely hailstorm passing through, accompanied by squally icy winds. I've seen Sleet, Snow, Rain, Hail, Sun and felt some very icy winds during my travels today. That's what you call a convective day.

Another heavy shower started with rain for 10 minutes then had 5 minutes of heavy snow back to rain now the sun is coming out.

Its like a spring day here! Been sunny and hazy all day....snow,sleet not even rain lol

heavy snow shower here, big flakes, and starting to settle

Just had rain sleet hail wet snow plus one clap of thunder all in 15 mins ,just waiting for the rainbow .settling on some of the hills around here but most of the showers seem to be decaying as they run in land atleast some action today ,cheers .

Yes it's rather annoying the way showers seem to weaken in just the bit that goes over your location. Started snowing very briefly a minute ago as the sky came over really dark but since stopped again. Need the showers to pep up a bit!

Rare occasion but snowing in Cardiff Bay!

Well i wasnt expecting to see falling Snow this morning (very wet though) just when I thought winter had finished with us

I do declare that it's currently snowing

Pretty snowy up on bodmin moor and on the A30 through devon this morning!

Morning had some heavy snow here in bath about 730 and its staring again, very wet but nice to see! Fromey

Hailstorm here lol nice dusting. Wow everywhere has gone white, must be 1cm of hail dropped so far.

And there was me telling hubby it wasn't thunder, just his ancient ears picking up the sound of a lorry trundling down the road.

If the forecast is correct jeth we could see a few more flakes today..

Just had a sleet/wet snow shower here in Probus cornwall!

Morning, about half an hour ago we had an insane snow shower, everything around here went from green and soggy to covered in a cm of the white stuff in about ten minutes. Hubby swears he heard a rumble of thunder in the distance - could it have been thunder snow? Sky turning black again.....

Here's hoping SW About 4 inches here this morn and snowing, off to work with the roads looking fun

1cm and still falling, these are real hefty showers my met office app is all forgiven

Absolutely chucking it down here now. Everywhere white. A wee snow day with my wee boy tomorrow by the looks of it.

Just started lashing snow here

Radar lookong good now with some beefy showers incoming. Have a slight dusting on the cars here. Bitter cold out!

Snow cover here and had some showers but it's nowt special in the slightest, will see what tonight/tomorrow brings For what it's worth, my Avatar picture was taken on April 1st 2010 following a 36 hour blizzard which gave us 2 foot plus and drifts blocking all local roads. I'll give it another month and then I'll be joining you to welcome in the warmth SW

June 2012 wasn't the wettest summer month here (as usual, we dodged all the thunderstorms), it was most notable for its lack of sunshine and persistent coolness. It was wet, but not record breakingly so; in fact July 2012 was wetter. As for the worst summer months for outdoor activities, here are my top 5: 1. August 2008 2. August 1992 3. July 2009 4. June 2012 5. June 1997 All characterised by a large number of days with rain and long spells of cool and/or dull weather, rather than just rainfall totals. Note that none of the summer 2007 months are in there- there were some dry spells of several days especially in June, which were OK for outdoors.

Kirkstone Pass is often the first road in the Lake District to close in wintry conditions. It is preety high at 1500 ft and exposed to the elements, under frontal snow events I would stay well clear of it. Wrynose Pass was also closed, but Shap stayed open I think - the snow was much lighter far east of the park compared to central lakes. Today's synoptics are ideal for very heavy snow in central lakes - evaporative cooling takes effect as the air is cooled on its climb over the high western fells, central parts of Cumbria often get a pasting, whilst the edges of the park see lighter stuff. I travelled to Kendal late afternoon and within the space of 4-5 miles it was a green scene, with high ground to the north of the town green as well. Here we tend to always just be in the snowy zone. Its a common occurance.

5.2C please

After this winter here in slushy Solihull.....12mm drifts would do me

Its definitely a day for staying indoors. Not unless you like this sort of weather. Im quite looking forward to the coming week. A fair bit of strengthening sunshine to really show off the lengthening days. And temperatures edging back to where they should be at this time of year.

The chart shows the anomalies though - the relative difference from normal. At a glance that massive area of frigid air is smaller than the massive area of milder than normal air.

Another cracker tonight from Real Edinburgh on FB