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Weather Enthusiast91 If the grass isn't totally brown and dead in the summer, then we will have had too much rain.

Not very often we see a low pressure system romp so triumphantly west from Scandinavia through the UK and Ireland to the Atlantic, as here on the 12z UKMO but there are some very intricate handovers of pockets of low heights that drive the whole process and give it some considerable elegance. The first pocket drops south to join the Scandinavian low at day 2, deepening it. The second drops out of the trough at the tip of Greenland at day 3, joining the melee at day 4 and drawing the system west over the UK and Ireland for the weekend. Thanks A third pocket drops southeast via the same route at day 6, pulling the system west out over the Atlantic. Looks like an “atmospheric” weekend awaits to round off this very mixed April, ripe for savoury evening treats washed down with a sumptuous glass or three of your favourite ale or wine. The late spring fitness effort can wait until some suitable conditions are laid on. And from there, let’s grab all the potential silver linings. Though not seemingly immediately on offer, there are at least some emerging signs that this remarkable retrogression, as a part of wider adjustments occurring within the generally very static hemispheric pattern, might eventually lead to sufficiently consistent heights building over the near continent to bring us a better chance of some warmer interludes as May progresses.

The first chink of daylight starting to appear when I got up at 4.45 this morning so even though the weather might still think it’s winter, summer is definitely on its way. just hope it doesn’t forget to bring its mates sunny, dry and warm with it.

raz.org.rain You contradicted yourself in your previous post then!

B87 That seems a bit extreme to me... I don't think we should want to go right to the opposite extreme, just a change to something a bit more normal. The damage this would cause to nature after already enduring one ridiculous extreme would be huge. stainesbloke Zurich has had snow on multiple days now, some of it even settled for a while. Why couldn't this have happened in February? Bloody El Niño. As for continued unsettledness, this is still quite the change from the constant Atlantic lows we were getting, so progress is progress. Breaking the habit is the first step towards something better. I get people's pessimism at the moment, I really do, everything is going to and we still aren't seeing any truly warm weather in the near future, but the situation is now a lot better than what it was in March, at least down here. This April has also imo far surpassed last year, I'm seeing the Sun more or less every day now, the trees have bloomed and we've had a handful of warm days. Last April was completely dull, grey and rainy aside from all of a few days at the end of the month. Things are on the up.

Evening all. Great deal of uncertainty at the moment about the way forward, but thought it might be worth throwing the 12z ECM meteogram in. After a continuation of the current pattern for the next few days we get the wind into more of a southerly quadrant by day 5 or so, which looks to lift temperatures above average. Unfortunately this is accompanied by a fair bit of rain, and in particular next weekend looks like another horror show to add to the list so far this year - very wet and temperatures near average held back by the rain. Beyond that into early May possibly somewhat less wet and warmer, but plenty of options on the table. There are a few warm outliers getting the temperature quite widely into the low 20s, but equally plenty of near to slightly below average scenarios. The key difficulty in the current scenario seems to be getting that combination of warm and dry. Most of the warmer options tend to be somewhat south-westerly and therefore it's unlikely we'll avoid rain for very long. And the options that do have more high pressure influence seem to position the high out to our west as we've seen recently, which is unlikely to produce anything notably warm.

I'm very capable of reading graphs thank you and my comment still stands. The solid black line is only a 10 year running mean and is too short. The dashed line is a more appropriate long term average that is still increasing on almost all the graphs you posted.

One of those occasions which is most likely to occur in the second half of Spring than any other time of year, when much of Cumbria sees the best English conditions, Wales, N Ireland and West Scotland often the same. Thanks to the influence of high pressure to the west, we received virtually nil traces of rain from the warm front, it was all to our east, and today we have sat in a dry spot, albeit cloudy, but also quite bright, high level cloud, no wind and pleasant temps close to 14 degrees. Always say mid April to late June best time to visit Lake District!

richie3846 shows just how dreadful these last 18 months have been for people to say that 7 degrees and drizzle can be considered as 'not too bad'. It's late April for crying out loud, it's completely dismal and depressing.

richie3846 Saying 7c & overcast drizzle in late April could be worse is like saying falling down a flight of stairs and only breaking both your legs could have been worse I like your optimism but there's no sugar coating it, these conditions are dire for this time of year lol.