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Southeast Traffic...!


ANYWEATHER

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Ok a little moan, I expect most folks are used to the amount of traffic in and around the London area! Im not...! Traveled down to the storm chase bbq at Pauls last Sunday [July 26th] did not get lost and the dreaded M25 was moving ..just..but you could hardly call it a sunday afternoon drive! As I dont use sat/nav and resort to the old fashioned AA road map and a pen and paper, I was quite chuffed with myself that I found it fairly easily! Had a fantastic time at the bbq and stayed overnight. Now Monday mornings is not the best of time to get in or out of the London area so I decided to give the M25 a miss and take the scenic route, if you can call it that! So I headed north and west via the towns of Chelmsford,, Harlow,St Albans and then to the wide open spaces of the Chilterns along the A41 which is a fairly nice drive and road and Ive never been on that road before so a new one for me, then over to Aylesbury, then over the backside of the Cotswolds. It took a good 5 hours or more for me to get home probably a good hour of that going round in circles around the towns roundabouts and another hour getting lost on the so called diversions and those diversions seem to be very common around that area! Anyway, my point, how much longer will the British roads more picticularly the southesat of England, will be able to have a road infra-structure to be able to cope with more and more traffic in the years to come? Not sure anyone will be going anywhere very quickly by then, and in my mind the answer is not to build new roads,in the long term it makes things worse...I dont know the answer, well except dont have a car, but we all need one of those and more often than not depend, on our motors, but sooner or later there will have to come a turning point.......! <_<

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One of the reasons I moved from southeast England! Rush hour in this part of the world is like a quiet weekend morning on the roads down there!
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Ah Ian...you just be grateful you don't live here then...!!! Dont get me wrong, from a weather perspective I wouldnt live anywhere else (well, maybe further E into Kent lol), but traffic wise, I wholeheartedly agree with you. I live within 3-5 miles of the A2/M2, A20/M20 and M25!! When one is up the spout, the other two become a nightmare! When the Dartford Tunnel/Dartford Bridge is gridlocked, the local roads follow suit and become jammed.

The advanatages of living here in the SE, is I am practically in the countryside, a 30 min car/train journey from Central London, and less than an hour from the Channel Tunnel/Ferry links (within 2 hours from France effectively). Due to the new local Eurostar link, I am only 15 mins from the Eurostar also.

BUT....the traffic, is one VERY annoying curse...one of which you have every right to complain about, but be thankful you dont have to endure on a daily basis!!!
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living in SE London i know how you feel about traffic. Sunday evening can be as busy as any other weekday, and when the Blackwall tunnel is closed the area can be gridlocked all day. i used to travel from home to RAF Henlow (down the road from Hitchin) every day for work and so long as i got the 1st ferry in the morning i could get to work in about 1h45m but the homeward journey coming back on A1M/M25/M11 could take 2h30m or more if there was an accident on the motorway. not sure if the answer is better roads or reducing cars :unknw:

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I think the best answer is a combination of both. Ken Livingstone's plan of phasing traffic lights to cause maximum disruption can't be helping matters, but nor can the sheer volume of traffic.
Unfortunately the prevailing view among policymakers seems to be that draconian measures to deter car use are the only way.
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